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I honestly have no idea what the difference beteeen kbin and lemmy is. I’m on Lemmy; what the hell is kbin?
Lemmy is a community led content aggregator similar Reddit. Mastodon is a microblogging platform similar to twitter.
Kbin combines the functionality of both and federates with both. Think of it as twidder or rettit. Insert a smash up yourself.
Lemmy was created by a couple pro-China pro-Putin “communists” and one of them is full on genocide of Uyghurs is not happening because they do not consider them people.
Kbin was created by someone who wanted a place for friends.
Do with that information what you will.
Wait a god damn minute… this is the first time I’ve heard of this China crap. Also… is there a kbin app yet? Benefit of Lemmy is useful apps.
There is an app that’s in beta testing for Kbin right now. It’s called Artemis and it’s really nice, even in the beta stage. I read there are plans for a public beta test soon.
@ArtemisApp is an app in beta right now by @harriet
As for lemmy. There is a lot to parse. It involves supporting tiananmen square massacre. Being kicked out of Reddit’s r/socialism for being too much for them in a militant way. That sub has pointed to many instances of support for genocide, how Russia is better off with Putin and how they’re defending their countries by killing any dissent. They’re known as tankies for their pro-tiananmen stance and how that saved China as a country.
Many defenders of lemmy say if that bothers you, just avoid their original instance or ones influenced/administered by them; but that both requires you to be aware of everything about them and all the lemmy instances,and it requires you to know that the instance you join has no further development by the creators of lemmy. Who updates the code? Who is the developer of this instance, and do they accept further stuff from the originators of this part of fedi.
Follow the rabbit hole
Plus isn't there a link to donate to the original developers on all Lemmy instances? The "Support Lemmy" one I mean, unless an admin has modified the source code to remove that I suppose, and continue to do so each time they receive an update. That seems to bother many people as well, even being on a different instance that the original creators do not administer personally.
The Kbin API isn't public yet (though that's coming very soon), so as far as I'm aware there's no native Kbin apps as of yet. I know many Lemmy app developers have already said they're going to add Kbin compatibility once it's out, including the developer of Sync.
I'm talking to you from kbin.social right now.
It's like a lemmy but with some different features. Like, I can read and interact with mastodon users a bit from here as well.
This article is posted from me with a kbin account, on a kbin magazine:-). The true beauty of the fediverse is that you need not care - like if I had a gmail account and you had a yahoo one, you could still receive the message despite being on entirely different servers.
Various Lemmy instances are part of the fediverse, and run the Lemmy code (various scripting languages - Rust, Actic, Diesel, Infero & Typescript). Each admin can do whatever, like modify the sourcecode, mess with their personal databases, etc., which can lead to different Lemmy instances using different versions of the sourcecode, which happened a few weeks ago and led to problems connecting when a new version became incompatible with the old.
Kbin is not a Lemmy instance though - it is a completely different implementation built from the ground up, in PHP & PostgreSQL - but it still uses ActivityPub so it can share with Lemmy the same as any Lemmy instance could. Meta (Facebook) will similarly implement ActivityPub in some manner and so also be able to communicate across the Fediverse. (Also as people are saying, Kbin also has implementation to share with Mastodon too while the Lemmy code does not.)
Unless an individual Lemmy - or a Kbin - instance wants that to not happen, i.e. to defederate, which is a whole other matter.
So:
So if you thought of yourself as a Lemming/Lemmon/whatever before reading this comment, it is probably better to start thinking of yourself in terms of being a fedizen now - a member of the wider fediverse. You always were, you just did not know that yet:-).