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I've heard the legends of having to drive to literally everywhere (e.g. drive thru banks), but I have no clue how far apart things are.

I live in suburban London where you can get to a big supermarket in 10 minutes of walking, a train station in 20 minutes and convenience stores are everywhere. You can get anywhere with bus and train in a few hours.

Can someone help a clueless British lemmyposter know how far things are in the US?

EDIT

Here are my walking distances:

  • To the nearest convenience store: 250m
  • To the nearest chain supermarket: 350m
  • To the bus stop: 310m
  • To the nearest park: 400m
  • To the nearest big supermarket: 1.3km
  • To the nearest library: 1.2km
  • To the nearest train station: 1km

Straight-line distance to Big Ben: 16km

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[–] jonc211@programming.dev 122 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s not necessarily how far things are, it’s that you need a car to get to places in a sensible way.

I’m a fellow Brit, but have stayed in suburban US enough to have experienced how different it is. You might have a supermarket a couple of miles away, but if you want to attempt to walk there, you’ll often be going well out of your way trying to find safe crossing points or even roads with paved sidewalks.

Train stations are mostly used for cargo in most US cities. If you don’t have a car, you’re pretty much screwed.

Some cities are different. NYC being the obvious one. You can get about there by public transport pretty easily in most places there. San Francisco is another city that is more doable without a car, but more difficult than NYC.

I stayed near Orlando not too long ago and there it’s just endless surburban housing with shops and malls dotted about mostly along the sides of main roads. You definitely need a car there.

[–] pezmaker@programming.dev 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Denver isn't great with public transport either. There's at least a minimal light rail system and buses go pretty much everywhere, so that's the good part, but the city is so sprawled out that unless your destination is a direct route you're looking at an hour or more to exclusively use public transport. And that's really the main city. Start getting out into the expanded metro area and there's not many choices except for a handful of spur rail or bus lines.

It's a lot more than many American cities, especially on paper, but in practice it's pretty rough to use as a primary transport.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 11 points 2 months ago

Most bus systems in American cities are for people to get to work and back home. Trying to take it to, for instance, a friend's house, and you're generally going to spend about 4x the time it'd take to drive there.