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Donald Trump continues to suck up to the Russian president.

If Ukraine were to suddenly surrender to Russia, everything would be “much better,” at least according to Donald Trump.

During an afternoon press conference Wednesday, the Republican presidential nominee urged the Eastern European nation to submit to the foreign power, claiming that any deal, no matter how dismal for Ukraine’s freedom, would have been better than the current state of affairs.

“Ukraine is gone. It’s not Ukraine anymore. You can never replace those cities and towns, and you can never replace the dead people, so many dead people,” Trump said. “Any deal, even the worst deal, would have been better than what we have right now.


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[–] lostinasea@lemmy.world 101 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Appeasement doesn't work. Appeasement never works. It didn't work with Hitler and it won't work with Put-ler. This piece of shit is a useful idiot and I'm saddened that quite a few people today lap this shit up and see this as the best path forward. Ukraine may be scarred now but they can and will rebuild when they win this war. Slava Ukraini

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Appeasement can work, just not in the obvious way. It's like throwing steaks at a pack of hungry wolves. It won't slow them for long, but it might give you enough time to find the shells, and load the shotgun.

What Trump is doing doesn't even rise to the level of appeasement. He's just begging like a whipped dog to his master.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be clear, even if it was appeasement, it still would accomplish nothing since the US does not need to buy time to build up their military.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ehhh, recruitment levels have been plummeting. I'm not saying we couldn't absolutely kick Russia's shit in with what we currently have, and take out half of Iran's Navy again, while we are at it for shits and giggles. We could have some issues if WWIII were to happen, at least for a couple of months for the draft to catch up.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US spends more on its military than the next 9 countries combined.

I think they'll be fine.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The biggest air force in the world is US Air Force.

The second biggest air force is US Army.

The fourth biggest air force is US Navy.

I think they'll be alright against Russia.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

What a fucking waste

[–] lostinasea@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a damn good analogy. Appease for long enough to grab a big stick. My original thought on Dementia Don saying just "give Putin what he wants" felt to me like a "if we do this now he won't ask for more later and the war will stop" kinda thing. As I read it now I'm willing to bet you're more correct. There is no nuance here. The orange cheeto is angling for praise from his master and dictators the world over. How fucking dumb

Appease for long enough to grab a big stick.

Neville Chamberlain got a bad rap from history for doing exactly this. He gave Hitler bits of what he wanted while making sure Britain had enough modern fighters (Hurricanes and Spitfires) to fend off the Luftwaffe when war inevitably did break out.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

a useful idiot

Useful idiot has specific meaning. It is someone who is so dumb that you can convince him to betray his country for free and he does believe he is doing right thing.

I am pretty sure this piece of shit is getting paid.

[–] lostinasea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Interesting. I learned something new today. Thanks for sharing! And no doubt he's been bought/getting paid. Everything about him screams Russian asset.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh there's definitely kompromat on him. He's done terrible things to children on video I'm sure. He owes dark money to dangerous people.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You don’t need to subscribe to wild theories to understand this.

He was listed in the Epstein flight logs seven times.

He built condos for Russian oligarchs to launder money.