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[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how that works

That's not how any of that works

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I know, it's not what's normally meant by the word conservative. But I don't see why we should have to give the idea of conserving things over to the right. There are lots of great things to conserve. And colonialism isn't one of them. Here in australia, we have a 60,000 year history that predates the right wing idea of conservativism.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're thinking of conservationism. Very different thing.

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

Conservatism is a cultural, social, and political philosophy that seeks to promote and to preserve traditional institutions, practices, and values.[1][2] The central tenets of conservatism may vary in relation to the culture and civilization in which it appears.

The culture I belong to is the queer community. Thus, the tenets of conservativism, to me, center on the traditional institutions, practices, and values of other people in the queer community. We promote the traditional institutions that rightfully govern colonised land. We promote the traditional institutions of pagan religions. We promote the traditional institutions of labour guilds and unions. We promote the traditional practices of indigenous land management. We promote the traditional practices of nonbinary gender. We promote the traditional practices of the old gods.

The things I am interested in preserving are not the same things a white coloniser binarist capitalist is interested in preserving. And given that whiteness, binary gender, and capitalism have no ancient history and no recent history worth keeping alive, I consider their conservativism far less legitimate. There is a whole lot more to conserve on the left.

[–] oddsbodkins@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

No it isn't. Naturel conservationism is about conserving nature political social conservationism often generally just shortened to conservatism is about conserving and preserving political and social power. Nothing more nothing less they are identical just about different topics.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

There are people who call themselves "conservative anarchists". Conservative as in "we know it worked before and this is how it worked"