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[–] Skua@kbin.earth 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Star Wars is absolutely fantasy that happens to be set in space

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don't know if you're brave or foolish, but either way, vaya con dios. The Star Wars fans are relentless.

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can only speak for myself, but as a Star Wars fan, I'm very aware it's fantasy. Shit man, it's got wizards.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

All I know is that a lot of Star Wars fans accept convoluted explanations for what Han Solo could have meant by doing the Kessel Run in under 12 Parsecs rather than accept that he just meant "ship go very fast." And at the same time not be concerned with how there could be the concept of a falcon a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

[–] GCanuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Babylon 5 had wizards.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The people who hate star wars the most are themselves the biggest fans of star wars.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 1 month ago

I also think that the Last Jedi is one of the better Star Wars films, so I'm quite used to my Star Wars opinions being the subject of definitely very polite disagreement

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dune is more fantasy than Star Wars and many consider it one of the best sci-fi of all times.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I personally subscribe to Asimov's definition of sci fi:

Science fiction can be defined as that branch of literature which deals with the reaction of human beings to changes in science and technology.

While Dune is full of stuff that's just straight up magic, the story is very much about how humans handle the technology, even when the in-universe basis of the technology is essentially magic. Long before the story ever started, we invented AI, freaked out about it, and then had to figure out how to replace computers in an interstellar society. The main overarching plot of the kwisatz haderach is about the consequences of the "invention" of precognition, even if the means of the invention are very fantastical. Several major factions are basically "what if we did super advanced selective breeding on humans for a thousand years".

Star Wars, meanwhile, isn't concerned with that sort of thing. It's an adventure of good againt evil in the most classic of ways. It's sword and sorcery. Even when a literal world-destroying superweapon is a major plot point, it doesn't actually take much of any time to think about what this technology would do to society beyond "be very scary". The obvious point of comparison is nuclear weapons in real life, and the development of those re-shaped culture enormously. We suddenly had this craze of imagination of all the things nuclear power might do. Humanity conquered the atom and we couldn't stop dreaming up new ways to wield this power. Most of which were fucking insane. In Star Wars, a power orders of magnitude greater shapes society no more than a particularly big army.

Star Wars is only interested in the characters, whatever technology is present is set dressing to allow for fun visuals. That's not something I say as a negative either. It's perfectly valid and reasonable for a story to take more interest in its characters than its setting.

Disclaimer: I'm writing all this thinking only about the nine main series films. Especialy the original three. I'm sure someone has written Asimov-definition sci fi somewhere in the Star Wars canon, "legends" or not. I've just never delved into it much at all.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Star Wars, meanwhile, isn't concerned with that sort of thing. It's an adventure of good againt evil in the most classic of ways. It's sword and sorcery.

Lightsaber and Forcery

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

A lot of what is considered sci-fi is based on the premise that physical laws can be broken.