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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Dutch words in general are insane. My favorite is Schildpad=turtle. Which literally means "shield Toad"

[–] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Exact same usage in German: Schildkröte.

But its not like the English language doesn't do the exact same thing.

Most languages: Ananas

English: pineapple

[–] dafo@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Same in Swedish, "sköldpadda". Literally shield toad.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Gets even weirder in Finnish, because it's "kilpikonna". Someone in ye olde times just straight up translated the Swedish name. Got none of the Indo-European roots in sight, but it still makes sense. Vaguely toady creature that has shields!

(Only problem are the homonyms. "kilpi" also means registration plate, and "konna" also means "villain, thief". So every time some random person goes around nicking plates off cars, the journalists think they are very clever again, even when the joke has been made before numerous times. Poor turtles! They don't deserve this!)

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jokes on you, in Danish it is "Skildpadde". "Padde" is toad, sure, but "skild" doesn't really make any sense!

(Perhaps it is an ancient Danish word for shield (skjold), but no one would use it)

[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 month ago

That's about on par with what I'd expect from Danes tbqhwyf

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tho, I would say, even tho its piney, a pineapple is nothing like an apple.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Apple used to be the general word for fruit. Hence why so many languages call potatoes "earth apple" or oranges a form of "yellow apple" or "applesin"

[–] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Fine. Hedgehog then.

[–] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Dutch is so whimsical. I personally giggle at winkelwagen. Winkel = shop, wagen = cart. Also, love that they say helaas pindakaas, meaning "that's too bad", but if literally translated means "unfortunately, peanut butter."

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

Uh oh, spaghettios

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pindakaas literally translates to peanut cheese. IIRC someone trademark protected the word meaning peanut butter, thereby forcing everyone else to call it kaas (cheese) instead?!

[–] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

TIL you can trademark everyday words in the NL. I need to read more about this!

Edit: turns out this is why

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

EDIT: Had not seen your edit before i posted this. Though both sources agree on the protected word, mine does not mention Suriname in any way. It sounds like a good theory, but could also be coincidental that the same word was chosen, couldn't it?

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Apparently, I stand (a bit) corrected. According to this dutch source, the dutch word for butter (boter) could only be used for products containing real (dairy) butter.

Here's a machine-translated and quickly edited (to make sense) version:

In 1948, the first jar of peanut butter was marketed in the Netherlands, but it was not allowed to be called peanut butter. Butter was a name that was specifically registered for real butter. So only butter was allowed to be called butter. Other types of butter were called margarine. And so, another name had to be thought of.

[...] Pinderkaas was compared to leverkaas ("liver cheese"). That is also a sandwich spread that does not contain any cheese at all, but does have cheese (kaas) in its name.

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ah so similar to Oreo “crème,” because “cream” is a protected word in the US

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That works doubly if you're talking to someone with peanut allergy who's asking what was in that cake while choking.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It's the same in many other languages, it's not a good example of Dutch being silly.

[–] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Something I like about the language is the homonyms.
Like pad means both toad and path, but then you have a voetpad (foot path/ foot toad), fietspad(cycling path/ bicycle toad) or a zebrapad (zebra crossing/ zebra toad).

The latter ones don’t exist, just to be clear :)

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

bicycle toad

The latter ones don’t exist

Are you sure?

[–] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Pff, that's clearly a frog 🙄

Though a frog is called a kikker, which is kind of funny I suppose :)