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[SOLVED] Cronjob with hdparm -y to spin down hard disks? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by gomp@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Solution:
hd-idle is the way to go (if you read their README, they explain that most drives don't support idle timers)

I've been looking into spinning down the drives of my NAS, as I use it infrequently and that brings power drain down from ~30W to ~17W.

Problem is, hdparm -S doesn't seem to do anything for these particular drives: if I set it and wait for the appropriate amount of time (eg. 5 seconds if set to 1) the drives are still reported as "active/idle" and power drain doesn't go down.

Both hdparm -y and hdparm -Y work fine, but I don't seem to be able to find settings for them in tlp (probably because they are commands rather than settings?).

Besides the caveats about disks living longer if they are kept spinning, are there reasons why I shouldn't setup a cron job (well, a systemd timer) that runs hdparm -Y every 10 minutes? (for example, could hdparm -y cause errors if run while the drive is being backed up?)

PS: According to hdparm's manpage, -y puts the drive standby mode while -Y puts it into sleep mode. Considering that in my case power drain seems the same either way, should I prefer one or the other?

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[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When you spin up the drive, the motor has to overcome the mass of the disks to bring them up to speed, requiring more torque, current, and wear, than just keeping them at that speed. On the other hand, bearings don't wear out at zero RPM. Bearings go, motor goes, either way drive is dead. Regarding bearings ALWAYS mount drives so that they are horizontal, this results in minimal bearing wear and load.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The motors are brushless, so no wear happens during spin-up from the extra current other than a little more heat for a few seconds.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@MangoPenguin Same thing that happens to your car motor when you slam the accelerator from a dead stop rather than gradually accelerating and maintaining a steady speed. Everyone knows stop-and-go traffic is hard on cars, disk drives too.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Car engines have connecting rods and all kinds of extreme side forces on bearings that get stressed under high load. Brushless motors do not have any of those things, just a rotational bearing that doesn't experience any more load on startup vs constant speed.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The startup is absolutely more stressful for the motor. It's a period of high current that also creates hotspots in the windings and such. It's certainly not great for the motor.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hotspots won't hurt anything unless they get too hot and damage the coating on the windings, I would assume the manufacturer is aware of that and designed the startup current so it's safe.