Yeah, Leatherman seems to have come out ahead. I used the Wave2 for a while, and most folks I know have Leatherman multi-tools. The lack of spring on the pliers took a long time to get used to. The Gerber pliers and scissors springs are still going strong, so I never bought the "it is just going to fail" argument for not having them. The Gerber also had external access tools decades before people were praising the wave for its originality in having external tools lol. Honestly those are two selling points that kept me from ever getting a new multitool....well, now there is sentimental value for a tool that has been through hell with me and is still strong...but I probably won't be recommending Gerber any time soon.