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And yet, this STILL won’t be enough to convince a lot of the leftists here to vote.
Leftists warned you that someone like Trump was the inevitable result of the capitalist system before he was elected. And here you are, eight years later STILL scapegoating the left for another fascist turn.
Leftists have no fucking idea what they’re talking about. So no, they didn’t warn shit. Because no one with any intelligence takes them seriously.
Trump isn’t not a “inevitable result of capitalism”. He’s an inevitable result of ignorance and stupidity. There have been many, MANY presidents that served under capitalism that weren’t anything like him. So stop with that bullshit. Besides…
You honestly think greed doesn’t exist under socialism?
Seriously?
Someone like Trump can be created by socialism just as easily. It’s happened before.
Additionally. There is NO blueprint for a working system of socialism in America. NONE. Pretty o much anyone that knows anything about it on an academic level knows it won’t work and has said as much. And as far as leftists go, none of you have a clue about it enough to do any more than copypasta one another’s pseudo-intellectual nonsense on it.
So please… step away from the mic.
Ask a socialist why they hate capitalism, and they'll give you a myriad of reasons. Ask a capitalist why they hate socialism and they'll describe capitalism.
Cute anecdote. Utter bullshit, but cute. Though I’m sure that’s also copypasta because I’ve seen your comment history- you’re not that clever.
Now before I end this discussion, I want to point something it that I think makes a good point to the matter:
Look around.
No, seriously….. look around.
No one on lemmy takes the far-left seriously except the far left. You’re all downvoted into obscurity almost all the time- on a platform that is known to lean towards YOUR bias. This should tell you something. In fact, this should tell you a lot!
First and foremost, it shows that the majority of people here think that you’re wrong. And secondly, that the majority of people here are getting fed up with entering your rhetoric.
It seems like every time one of you pop up, someone with logic and empirical evidence arrives to be the whack to your mole. And its usually a lot more then just someone- it’s many.
And often.
And seemingly none of you ever have anything of substance to counter. Just “Nuuuhh uhhhhhh!” or trollish attempts to report people for simply disagreeing with you. Or just… lame quotes that mean nothing.
So respond in kind, it won’t really matter. Because come November- we ALL know you’re going to disappear along with the rest of them and the only evidence that you were ever here will reside in a comment history where you were shown the door-
And often.
'Til chilly November then, snowflake!
Loving the civility. You have nothing. Thanks for proving my point.
Would've been easier to convince them to come back if we didn't spend the better part of last decade "calling out" white savior complex.
Why did we make such an effort to make sure white men realize how pathetic everyone thinks they are, again?
Seems people aren't that worried about what Trump's potential presidency and lasting legacy could lead to.
I don't think I've seen genuine fear much at all, except for that one black guy who was threatened with hanging in some old sundown town around Nevada/California some weeks ago. Everyone around seemed perfectly fine with it, maybe even willing to help, should the old man want to seize him and actually hang him.
I don't think Americans really imagine it getting there. They think the white boys with still be holding eachother back, but the reality is that the bleeding heart kind will be sitting at home or something, he won't be your pathetic white savior standing between the psychos and their catch.
If Harris wins, there won't be much more of that, but if Trump wins it'll start happening a lot more, and the decades coming after will be blown wide open in terms of how bad things can get. People are wrong if they think the modern crop of white boys is less dangerous than their great great grandpa. I know the mentality, they're a bit hyena-like, they're fucking clowns about it. With a love for long range rifles, occasionally a disturbing habit of entertaining themselves with gore, I wouldn't want to see them win the government's approval/tolerance.
Oh FFS, no one thinks white men are pathetic. We think people who consider themselves special little snowflakes because they are white men to be pathetic for that specific reason.
White men are no more and no less important than everyone else, and for those who have been accustomed to the privilege of being a white male, the equality of being the same as everyone else feels like oppression.
Yeah, this is what I was talking about.
You're completely and utterly fucked. You better be sure Harris wins because the alternative won't be pretty.
You don't even know what you've told them.
And what specifically "won't be pretty" about it?
Okay, what did I tell "them"?
WTF????
WhAt THe fUcK??!??!!!?
Fuck you.
Yeah… I figured as much. Take a walk.
Yeah, just take walks every time things seem dire. Ground yourself and find peace, ignore how tenuous it is. Then go on as normal, don't lose faith in your principles. It'll work out, they're worth it, no need to abandon them.
Things seem dire because... Checks thread people don't treat you like a super special big strong boy just because you're a white male?
That's what you think I'm saying because you've gotten so fucking used to mocking your allies and enemies as if they are the same. You "know" they are the same. You've decided that they are the same.
You're the kind of progressive that deserves to stand with the few against the cruel. Not all progressives deserve it, so it shouldn't happen. But you would deserve it, and if there are enough of you, you will make it happen as you provoke it at every opportunity.
You taunt them to hunt people like you. And so they do. The shootings aren't a separate phenomenon from these conversations you're having.
You provoke enemies and push away allies.
Anyone who thinks white men are being discriminated against is an idiot, and I'll tell them as much.
If telling someone "white men aren't being discriminated against you idiot" pushes them to do violence, then that person is not my ally and never was. They are a dangerous individual that should never have been allowed access to a fork, never mind a weapon.
A proper educational and mental health system should have caught such individuals long ago to give them the treatment they need.
"discriminated against"
You don't even recognize what you're doing. You don't understand the situation or your opposition at all.
But it's not surprising, you don't want to.
Okay, so tell me what I'm doing. Explains the situation. This is a teachable moment, and telling me "You don't know understand" does help me to actually understand.