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[–] crowbar@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What if shes hitler's stan? Or trump's supporter? Or voldemort's death eater?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then she's still someone, just someone shitty.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

More likely someone scared and misinformed and has a bit of the old attitude polarization (which comes when not schooled on critical thinking.) We naked apes are smarter than the average hominid but with uncommon exception, not that much smarter.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

No, there are plenty of women who actively reinforce hierarchy over egalitarianism for the same reason men do. They want to feel special in comparison and in competition to other members of their perceived cohort. A woman might feel extra powerful from the idea she was disadvantaged and became an oppressor herself.

Or worse, she has the "temporarily embarrassed billionaire" or submissive perspective and reinforces the system at her own detriment because she doesn't want to stick out and is angered by others sticking out as it would invalidate any progress she has made under the current regime.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That would make her an asshole, but leave her personhood intact.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Theoretical a person, though I feel like anyone who is a Nazi loses their humanity.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago

This is always going to be thorny because it depends what you mean by personhood or humanity, or whatever term is being discussed.

Some people view acknowledging that everyone possesses these innately and indelibly as akin to saying they're an adequate or worthy person. Not unlike how some people get offended when you call really shitty art what it is - art (albeit shitty).

I'm not going to defend Nazis, but I fall in the indelible camp. To me it's like acknowledging that someone can feel pain. It's just a matter of reality.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Then damn her by her beliefs and actions

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The more I learn about Bellatrix, the more I pity her. Voldy never even saw her as a person, I honestly think that he cared more about Harry than he did her.

[–] crowbar@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair I too, would give more thoughts for my would-be downfall-bearer which is also a part of my soul than a work mate