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[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He was firm with Russia and China, but neither of them moved to attack. I don't care how mad the two are, as long as it keeps war from breaking out.

I do agree that there's a bipartisan consensus on military spending, but I think it's between the Rinos and the DNC. Not that I think Trump will significantly defund our military, but I do think, with those he's built up around him this time, he'll be less likely to get into these proxy war situations, end the ones we're in now, and hopefully we won't see anymore US-backed coups.

The issue is, all of that will 100% keep happening under Harris. There's a reason Dick Chaney didn't endorse Trump, and it's because he knows he's not going to get as much sweet war money from the trump administration being in charge. He knows he'll get that with Kamala.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

All of that will 100% keep happening under Trump as well. There is nothing whatsoever that would indicate otherwise. You're just going off of vibes.

I don’t care how mad the two are, as long as it keeps war from breaking out.

That's self-contradictory. Worsening relations make conflict more likely. Trump is the one that set us on this trajectory in the first place. The idea of China or Russia being our enemies was laughable before him.

The reality is that neither part of the establishment actually wants war with Russia or China. They're sitting comfortable at the top and have no reason to throw the world into chaos and jeopardize their comfortable positions. What they want is to rally people up into supporting the possibility of war in order to justify military spending, which they profit from. The risk of war comes from two things: first, someone overplays their hand, and second, that the people who are being rallied up to support war actually find themselves in position to follow through. Part of the reason that some people on the right, such as Tucker Carlson, oppose involvement in the war in Ukraine is because they actually want a full-scale war with China and want to close the other front to make way for it.

I don't see how you can look at all the coups and bombings and rising tensions and unconditional support for Israel under Trump before and seriously think that he won't do more coups and such if elected again. It's just cope.