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[–] Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@givesomefucks@lemmy.world

Imagine if Kamala's line was just to the right of yours, whatever you care most about, she's just going to agree with trump on.

But that is not how it works. If she is to your right, she will hold a position to the right of your position. That's all. How do you equate her being to your right to her agreeing with Trump? That assumes that to your right everything is one single position. But that is of course not the case. It's a continuum, and Kamala is probably closer to you than Trump is.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How do you equate her being to your right to her agreeing with Trump?

The shitty "meme" that your commenting under....

Specifically?

Being pro fracking, for Trump's border wall....

Pretty much all those policies that she agrees with trump on..

[–] Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@fedia.io -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Surely there are more policies she disagrees with Trump that policies she agrees with him. Shouldn't that proportion be enough to make progressive voters to vote for her?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It should.

But it isn't.

So why don't we try to get Kamala away from that conservative policy? It gets the votes to beat trump and we end up with a president who's policy aligns more closely with the Dem voter base.

It's literally a win/win, why spend time yelling at people to vote (when we know that's not effective) instead of trying to get Kamala to move to the left and get the votes?

When we know that's effective

If Biden hadn't been pulled left in 2020, he wouldn't have beat trump.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That assumes that to your right everything is one single position.

That's how these people think. Yes-or-no, black-or-white, totally agree or mortal enemies.

There's either a genocide or there isn't, no concept of relative scale. There's either environmentalism or there isn't. There's support for immigrants or bigoted xenophobia. No complexity. No shades of gray.

You either agree with me completely about everything, or you are the enemy. It's why Leftism inevitably eats itself. Completely incapable of compromise.