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Stack Overflow Survey: 80% of developers are unhappy (shiftmag.dev)
submitted 5 days ago by mesamunefire@lemmy.world to c/programming@programming.dev
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[–] SpeakinTelnet@programming.dev 45 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Can confirm. Was quite unhappy in my mechanical engineering job, had an opportunity to develop something nice in python, was told we'd do it in excel/vba instead, still unhappy.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

was told we'd do it in excel/vba instead, still unhappy.

I just threw up in my mouth a little. Fifteen years ago, "I'll stick to Excel" was a (bad, but) defensible position in data automation. Today that's just insanity.

[–] SpeakinTelnet@programming.dev 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm still in a mechanical engineering world so just saying INT and FLOAT has people running away. Excel is the "safe zone" for them, sadly it means that I'll just be doing the VBA part and oh gawd please get me out of here...

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah. I get that. Gotta do what you gotta do!

I've made some progress at organizations like that by setting up a private workflow in Python "just to check my work".

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Nice. You can put that on your resume so you can get more of those kinds of jobs.
(/s. I like excel to a point but i really feel your pain too-- and fuck vba)

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

excel has python support now! you may still get away with it

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's cloud based though... Not ideal. I get why they had to do that (they didn't want to expose people to the Python infra shit show) but it's still kind of a shame.

Would be better if they added Typescript support IMO.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

...like the js infra stuff isn't it's own special nightmare?

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

It's significantly less of a nightmare and Deno is downright pleasant.