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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a one lane one way street, there's nothing to let them pass though. They were just driving responsibly from the sounds of it.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

on a single file one-way side street with 2 designated bike lanes. He was furious that I wouldn't let him speed past him

The description is weird, but it sounds to me like there's 1 lane for cars and 2 (narrow) bike lanes on either side and the biker was in the middle to prevent him from passing

They were just driving responsibly from the sounds of it.

That may be so, but pulling to the side to let an aggressive driver pass you is the smarter choice. Especially on a bike. Bike vs Car faceoffs usually don't end well for the biker.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You may have missed the part where the driver of the BMW “hopped the curb” “at 70”. I have some doubts about the speed, but if you’re going over a curb at speed to try to pass someone, you’re in the wrong.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that description is a little suspect. If you hop a curb at 70, your car is getting jacked up.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's 70kph, not mph. As a delivery driver I take curbs at 70kph every day, modern suspensions can take that without issues

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Im pretty sure you don't know what a curb is.

[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Taking a curb at 43 mph doesn't sound right unless the curbs where you live are tiny

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

German curbs, they are about 10cm high. Don't know how that compares to other countries curbs

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Ooh you're right I misread. Still probably not great for a BMW, but doable.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never said he wasn't, but the biker was also putting his and his kids life at risk just to make a statement. The same type of aggressive driver who will "hop the curb at 70" are also the same who are unpredictable and could lose it and run you over.

Is taking the law into your own hands just to make a statement really worth your or your children's lives? When you could have just avoided the entire situation by pulling to the side and letting the aggressive driver pass while you noted down the license plate?

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Sorry, that wasn’t my point. If the driver had to hop a curb to threaten the cyclist, how would the cyclist have been able to simply “pulled to the side” to let him past when there’s a curb between them.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The swerving at them was when coming back off the curb into the road, I think. If there was a curb between them, there's no way the cyclist was preventing him from passing.

Edit: crappy drawing

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah gotcha, yea the OOP post isn't particularly clear, but from my understanding there was a time before the driver got fully enraged where the biker could have pulled off onto the curb themselves

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It does seem like there’s something “off” about that description. Itd be interesting to know where this all happened.

I can imagine a driver raging at a cyclist and then later chasing them and hopping a curb to threaten. Or hopping the curb onto a sidewalk to pass them and swerving back onto the road in a threatening manner. Both strike me as very much dangerous and disproportionate reactions to having to go a bit slow for 30 seconds.

[–] DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Most likely one contraflow bike lane, plus one car lane with sharrow, like this.

Also, bike needs to be in the center of the lane to avoid the door-zone.