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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Unfortunately for the gunmen in this example, their guns will wear and tear.

Their guns will be worthless long before they wear out. They are going to run out of ammo eventually. None of these folks are capable of manufacturing modern nitrocellulose gun powder or primer caps necessary to reload their fancy rifles and handguns. I don't even see them taking a more pragmatic path of learning how to make old school black powder for muzzle loaders which they could conceivable made in their bunkers. Admittedly, I'm on the tree-hugger/equality side and don't even own a gun. These are just my observations from outside their group.

Were these preppers more honest with themselves, there would be another area they would overlap with many on the far left: Cosplay.

And that’s aside from the fact that human societies have always flourished because we have worked with rather than against each other.

100% agree. Our survival as a species has always depended on us working together.

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

None of these folks are capable of manufacturing modern nitrocellulose gun powder or primer caps necessary to reload their fancy rifles and handguns.

This gave me a thought, would having equipment for ammonia and other chemicals (for fertiliser as well as explosives) be useful for preppers?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Useful in what what? Farming? Sure.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have acquaintances that would definitely be considered classic preppers. One told me that he has 10k plus (each!) of rounds for multiple calibers of weapons, and a years worth of food for each of his family members in a “bunker” on his property. It’d take a LONG time to burn through that many rounds.

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ammo starts to degrade after about 10-20 years assuming your storing it well. Which is less likely to be true in the "end times". 2 decades is a long time but depending on your age it's not a life time, and firing damaged ammo can be dangerous.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Very true. I get the feeling that he cycles through a lot of rounds, but not a close enough friend to have shot on his land more than once.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, he's one of the people who drove ammunition prices up.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think he’s had a stockpile since forever, but probably yeah.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Fire (and more importantly, smoke) is a powerful tool. Displace enough air and people start either getting away or dropping.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Most people like this that I've ever met have several thousand rounds of ammunition. They'll run out, but it will take a while.