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“We see it now: The hate has shifted to the trans community,” Walz said. “They see that as an opportunity. If you’re watching any sporting events right now, you see that Donald Trump’s closing arguments are to demonize a group of people for being who they are.”

“We’re out there trying to make the case that access to healthcare, a clean environment, manufacturing jobs, and keeping your local hospital open are what people are really concerned about,” he continued. “They’re running millions of dollars of ads demonizing folks who are just trying to live their lives.”

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[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 100 points 2 years ago

We're just a few weeks away from the election. The candidates have two different but important roles.

  • Presidential candidate: keep the base in line while not alienating swing voters
  • VP candidate: say things that the presidential candidate can't say

As much as you may want Harris to say something like "We will defend the trans community," it's going to alienate swing voters.

It makes no earthly sense the election is this close but it is. Kamala can't afford a misstep but Tim can.

[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I completely understand that and I do not fault Harris for giving a precise diplomatic answer in the Fox interview on what some voters see as a sensitive issue. Which is difficult for me to even type because the concept of my existence is a "political issue" to some.

However, I do take exception with it being characterized as "Harris announce support for trans community", because that's just not what she said. Which is why I am happy to hear Waltz clarify and go further.

[-] TheCannonball@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Hey, I just wanted to tell you something cause it sounds like you might be in a bad place. Even with all of the political finger pointing surrounding your identity, you need to know something very important.

Your life matters. Your experiences matter. Your feelings matter.

You matter.

Ignore all the hatred and all the fear. Ignore the bigotry and close mindedness. Ignore it all and know that there are so many people out there that will love you and support you and accept you.

You are not alone.

[-] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We can't ignore it when they're constantly passing more and more draconian laws that make our lives infinitely harder all across the United States.

[-] TheCannonball@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

You're correct. But i also said Ignore and not "do nothing". It's possible to ignore the hate while still fighting for your rights.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

I hate to say it but everything is fucking political now. Yes it sucks that it's tied to your identity but identity politics scores super easy points with conservatives because it's so much easier to point out vs the massive wealth disparities between people like Musk and you and me.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 30 points 2 years ago

Do you think swing voters might in fact be fucking morons? I'm so tired of the fate the world resting in the hands of low information people who seemingly command the memory and political acumen of the proverbial goldfish.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

No fucking shit they’re morons. But you still need their votes to win. Democracy isn’t rule by the intelligent its rule by the people regardless of their intelligence

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

Oh no question. But even moron votes count (at least statistically speaking).

So at this point, I fully expect Harris to run a much tighter ship than she has been and Trump to increase his very violent rhetoric.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

It's insane the amount of trans hate I have been hearing this past month alone (in real life). I have to explain: Sure, they weren't always front and center as today's political issues make them seem but they still existed. Their existence is not a recent development in any way. Tiktok isn't turning your kids into anything.

It's not just people who identify as Republicans or religious people either. I can see why the anti-queer vote is important to both parties; their numbers are staggering.

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