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My advice is to live your life as best as you can without worrying too much about things you can't control. Try and build a life around yourself that'll help you be happy through it all, regardless of what happens. Enjoy your 20's. 30's are good too and 40's don't suck either.
To paraphrase Sun Tzu: do not choose a path to victory. Instead, choose a strategy such that all paths lead to victory.
And don't have kids.
Don't want em to suffer worse shit down the road.
This one's kinda loaded. Imagine everyone just stopped having kids. We'd be extinct.
We don't need to pump them out like we're recovering from a war.
Also whose gonna take care of all our old asses in the future? Society was kinda built on this system.
But yes, the population overall does need to decrease.
I don't care if we go extinct. Once I'm dead reality shuts down since I can only experience it from my POV.
And it's cute you think we're gonna allowed to retire instead of dying at work or homeless. Real cute. We won't have the same luxuries as the damn boomers.
100% agree. We are so fucked for retirement. That term should almost be removed from the dictionary, since it will no longer exist 😅
Good
Let us suffer. If we even make it far enough for that to be an issue.
This is such a depressing and pessimistic view on it though.
Imagine a world where the top humans actually cared and didn't exist to just exploit the classes under them. That would be a good place to be, but humanity's greed will never cease to exist.
My advice is to learn how to grow food and save seeds. I'm doing it now to develop my skills in anticipation of some day needing those skills.
Still need a solution for water. Also build yourself an earth ship 😂
Honestly I probably will some day...
I dunno, 20s sucked the worst. 30s were sweet. 40s going alright, significantly less depression when you stop giving a fuck about everything.
I am shocked at how quickly everyone is giving up.
We can't just quit and go gently into that good night. All life on the planet is depending on us.
Nah mate, most life is going to do just fine, just like it did the past 5-20 mass extinction events in the last 500 million years.
The people however are fucked, but they're the ones who refuse to listen, so fuck 'em.
Bro if we die it's MUSHROOM SAMBA TIME.
that or cockroaches
And billionaires took this advise seriously, living life not caring for anything and building life around themselves.
Lmao good luck with that when global food chains collapse.
Welcome to the battle sphere. 7billion people enter, 1 billion people leave.
How's your underground bunker going? If you aren't currently either living in one or building one you should probably stop talking shit about billions dying.
Underground bunkers are a prepper fantasy held by people with masculinity issues. They're completely useless without supply chains and communities to support them.
What gets people through hardtimes isn't individualist isolationism. It is collective support, community building and cooperation. The pooling together of labour within groups in order to perform tasks more efficiently overall for the collective benefit.
My understanding is that communities require children to continue existing. People in this thread are saying they don't want children because climate change. My position is that that opinion is really stupid, and what you just said about communities would suggest you feel the same.
I don't think there is any particular problem with people having fewer children. It creates a short-term labour burden in terms of having to divert more resources to elderly care but the rate of birth change isn't likely to change too dramatically to affect much. You just reduce the population over time and that's fine. Fewer people isn't a problem as long as the labour exists to support the food, clothing and shelter output you require for the combination of capable + incapable that your community has. Starvation in the short term is the larger concern.
its better to enjoy what you have right now than be worried about the future which is not in your control. i don't see how being worried will prevent climate change. might as well not give a fuck and live your remaining life doing whatever makes you happy.
You are selling apathy and do-nothing. An utterly abhorrent and amoral position. It's no wonder the entire of gen z want to kill themselves when people like you are telling them not to worry and just sit around waiting for the end to come.
I am selling the opposite. Join radical political organisations that seek radical change. Take part in building the radical power and actually doing something about it.
No you aren't selling hope either. Your comment was about 6 billion out of 7 billion people dying. You didn't ask to do activism or anything.. and joining "radical politicial organisations" will get you branded as a terrorist. There is a need for activism but under a capitalist system only profits will matter. There is very little under our control and only enforcing policies at govt. level will help.
I'm not asking people to sit around waiting for end to come. I'm asking them to do things which make them happy whether it's playing video games or climate activism. Worrying about shit won't fix climate change, strategical political and economical changes might.
It was like that to illustrate to you the scale of the problem and the scale of immorality hidden within the "just do whatever you want and be happy".
Get organised. Join radical orgs. Get unionised. How many of you have even bothered to join a union yet? Like the bare fucking minimum. Of the people in this thread I bet it's a handful. Join an org, go to a 1 hour fucking meeting once a fortnight. It's not hard, everyone is just lazy as fuck and sitting around waiting for someone else to do it for them.
Absolutely NOBODY will do it for you. The working class must rescue itself. People need to get this through their fucking heads, the system has failed and is not going to reverse course. A new system is needed and only radical efforts are calling for that.
I totally agree with you. I just wanted to put into perspective that being sad and worrying is only detrimental to our own well being. To fight the fight, we need to be resilient. Being in a happy and positive state will help with what you're suggesting. forcing corporations and taxing their ill-gotten profits is the most basic step we need to do. However, joining unions is hard especially in a poor country like mine. You'll be kicked out of your company so fast and there are more than a thousand people waiting to take up your job. I'm not exaggerating. Labour laws have been fucked with so hard by the corporations that day to day survival is what most people can think about. Sadly, climate change is the least of the worries especially in poorer countries.