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[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Except this time there is a literal fascist running. The third party argument doesn't work when we've got a candidate quoting Hitler and promising that this will be the last election you'll have to vote in.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml -3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

There's always a literal fascist running, that's what the GOP is there for. Lately, there's two.

[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No, there isn't always a literal fascist running and to say that there is severely and dangerously downplays the threat that Donald Trump poses to both the US and the rest of the world. It's also a disgusting way to devalue the victims of fascism. A fascist is not simply someone you disagree with; they are not just an asshole, or a bad leader, or someone who leads their country into a war for their own gain. Fascists will erode your way of life, they will take whatever they want, they will take away your rights and spit in your face while doing so (assuming they don't simply have you arrested), they will kill you as soon as it either benefits them or if they just want to for the hell of it.

Use whatever perceived intellect and moral high ground you can trick yourself into believing you have to vote 3rd party, but just know that you are aiding in Trump's re-election. And all because you're too much of a dipshit to know the difference between an asshole and a fascist. Fuck you.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Lmao. Don't lecture me on what Donald Trump is gonna do to the rest of the world when it's been both parties robbing us in the global south. Many of Trump's most atrocious policies have just been happily accepted as the new normal by democrats. That's their function, one does the dirty work, the other pretends it has to stay this way now.

Any metric that doesn't include Joe Biden – the guy directly responsible for the mass incarceration of PoC via the 90s crime bill, a segregation advocate, a guy who has increased the number of children in cages in migrant camps, who keeps shipping weapons to a state in the middle of a completely broadcasted genocide – as a fascist, is a worthless, arbitrary metric.

You're telling me Bush, who greatly enhanced the ability of the NSA to spy on every single citizen in America, who had a torture camp in Guantanamo where they knew they were torturing innocent people, who had black sites in abu ghraib, who gave finance capital carte blanche to rob people with predatory mortgages and securities built on air, that guy isn't a fascist?

All this tells me is that the US has a far greater tolerance for fascism than anywhere else in the world as long as you don't use the word, and provided the fascists aren't targeting them specifically.