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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 22 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

This is actually pretty dangerous news. Hillary was also leading in the polls.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Gah! Why does everyone bring this up? Was no one around in October 2016?!

James Comey, Director FBI, publicly announced they were reopening the investigation into Clinton's emails, 3 weeks before the election.

Liberals are always saying, "But her emails, hurr!" Yes, her emails. This was explosive news and handed the election to Trump. Doesn't matter that Clinton later faced no consequences, all the public heard was, "Meh. Maybe she is a criminal. We're having another look."

The polls were right, Clinton would have won if not for this absolute bombshell at the 11th hour.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

And she did still win the popular vote.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The polls still had her winning up to election night.

These poll numbers are at best worthless, and at worse they'll make people not vote because it appears that Harris has it in the bag.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Eh sort of. She was favored to win but the odds weren't a clear dunk peopre keep insisting.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is early voting, not really a poll. People are interviewed upon exiting the polls and that data set is linked to the registration data for the precinct. So, there is no data model applied as there is in the polls you are familiar with.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 13 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

That's literally a poll, though.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think the point is that this isn't an advance poll to see how people might vote, where people might end up changing their minds. It's instead people who have just voted saying who they actually voted for.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's still a poll, and all polls have inherent biases. These sorts of announcements are a bad thing because they lead to people not voting.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah, you have a point there.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

But, real data is used. There is not a turn out model of past elections. This is real people and real numbers being my point.

Every time you vote, your name is checked off on precinct rolls. There's no guessing on who has voted. Quite handy when it comes to GOTV

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

But just because you vote doesn't mean you take the poll. You can easily walk past or say no. It's still a poll, yes it's taken at an election facility, but it is not the same data set as the actual votes

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Sure, you can refuse an exit poll. But, they are surprisingly accurate.