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Honestly we need to invent something better than password managers.
Webauthn already exists.
You still need to store those secrets. You would probably refer to a keychain but in the end it is still a password/secret manager.
And the current implementation is not really better, services like paypal still do not allow you to use a passkey on the desktop.
This is more often 2FA & a password is still needed
Any self-hosted software to recommend?
Kanidm
Thx. Will check!
Best we have and probably will ever have on the current web. Not sure what the problem is with password managers?
Personally I would never trust an app to save and manage my passwords. There are a lot of risks with it. But I still think writing down passwords on a piece of paper and storing it in a physical safe when needed is the best approach so ik nobody will understand.
Differences in the thread model. And of course convince. How to you backup your paper regulary? How do you transfer it? What if you need to access a pasdword when you are not home?
Most ppl will just reuse or use very weak passwords when they have to write every password they have to enter.
Well yea people with the "I don't care. I just press the button and it always works" model do exist.
But browser cookies exist?
I know a lot of services that log you out regularly. Or need a password when you change settings or whatever.
WTF no. Password managers are reasonable secure. That is no i don't care behavior.
And when you are worried about password managers you should not use cookies. Stealing a cookie is much more simple than stealing and encrypting your password safe.
Ok that's true.
I didn't mean stealing. I meant losing passwords due to a system malfunction or losing the password for the manager. In that case you lose all your passwords in one moment. That's scary. Also the manager can become proprietary and leak the data to governments. Though in that case it's all about your trust to the manager.
That is why you use an open source manager. KeePassXC for example is not owned by a for-profit company.
Losing the container due to corruption disk failure etc can be easily managed with backups.
Losing the password. Yes this is a real valid scenario. I personally have no problem with that i manage fine for years without having to write it out on paper to backup it. A solution would be to actually write that password out somewhere and hide it/ put it into a safe. An attack then needs to attack both, depending if you use disk encryption it is easy to get access to the password safe or not. There are other things to consider, like you could try to hide it in a very long string of characters like 20 pages of random characters, even if you forget it you will be able to find it cause it is very likely that you remember a few characters.
We have USB/NFC hardware security tokens, as well as OS-integrated passkeys