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[–] 257m@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Cities aren't neccesarily loud. Cars are loud. 90% of the background noise would dissappear without cars.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The lack of noise during covid confirms this...evenings were super quiet. It was amazing. Now if only we can shut the city's power off a night so we can see the starts again.

[–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net 13 points 1 month ago

also, when there's a snowstorm, it gets so quiet... I love it. although I'm sure its because of the lack of cars on the road AND snow piling up that absorbs sound instead of bouncing it around everywhere

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Now if only we can shut the city’s power off a night so we can see the starts again.

You might feel differently in the middle of winter.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Most of the things they named weren't caused by cars.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

90% of the things they named weren't cars but in practice if you actually compare cities with tons of cars vs ones with few you'll find that removing cars removes 90% of the noise.

Though It may be that not being bombarded with car noise makes people quieter as well (like how being in a loud crowd makes you want to speak up as well).

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If a city was too quiet I'd go from being annoyed at all the noise to being paranoid that I'll be the one being too loud.

[–] dragonfucker 4 points 1 month ago

And that's why people do less yelling when there aren't cars around. That's why removing cars makes the other stuff quieter.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I live in a quiet neighborhood and it's totally not an issue. Even when I lived in an apartment in a quiet neighborhood, it still was largely a non-issue. Quiet is good, and it encourages landlords and homeowners to install proper sound-proofing to preserve it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I live in a quiet neighborhood and it’s an issue for me.

Until my neighbors dogs start barking and then I’m annoyed again.

I do not like proximity to humans.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cars are far louder than most of the things on the list, only gunshots, airplanes and construction can even remotely exceed the level of noise pollution produced by a busy roadway.

It also turns out that a lot of the construction is due to cars in one way or another:

  • new parking garage to store more cars
  • fix roads destroyed by cars
  • new buildings because others had to be removed to make space for cars

If you remove the cars and build with density in mind, a lot of that goes away.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of the things they name aren't inherently city noises, either, though. I don't live near any concert venues or airports, so I don't hear noise from either of those sources. You could live in the middle of nowhere, but if you live above the local bar, it shouldn't come as a surprise that it's loud on Friday and Saturday nights. Dogs and birds aren't exactly uniquely urban phenomena, and the sound of peoples' shoes on the sidewalk being a major source of noise just strikes me as absurd.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah I don't know where they're coming from if they're not used to birds. I just got an impromptu concert by the wren who lives in my azalea and it was lovely.

[–] dragonfucker 2 points 1 month ago

Some of the non car things have to be louder because of cars. People yell louder when they have hearing damage from cars. Sirens need to be louder.