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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 147 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is the story that we need to be focusing on until election day. None of the other stunts matter. If anything this post should be pinned. We should keep our eye on the ball even if the media won't.

Trump threatened to send the military and the national guard after people on the left and Democratic politicians. This is blatant and open fascism. In any other election Trump being openly fascist would be the October surprise. Everyone needs to see this.

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He’s not even phrasing it as a threat, for him it’s just an “obvious solution” to a problem he made up. He doesn’t even see it as something serious so he doesn’t threaten us with it.

Which makes what he is saying even more scary. Imagine what is he NOT saying and that he thinks would be a threat? Fuck, as someone on the other side of the pond I hoped I could show my support to my fellow Americans but this will fuck us all in the end.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To paraphrase Trump, he said if elected, he will send the military and national guard after his political and ideological opponents.

That's a threat. It's phrased as a threat. The fact he's says it calmly doesn't matter. This is what fascists do. They identify an out group. They stir up public fear and resentment against the out group. They make promises to their supports, in the form of threats of violence against the out group, to get rid of the out group. Then historically speaking they make good on their threats to the best of their ability once they take power.

When fascists run out of the current out group they just find another way to divide the population and pick a new out group. As long as fascists want to cling to power they need an enemy. What Trump isn't telling us is the next out group he hasn't picked yet because he doesn't plan that far ahead. The Haitian immigrant conspiracy was a spur of the moment thing that other people had previously come up with and told him about on the plane ride to the debate. If he ever needs a new group to fearmonger about he'll just ask other fascists for ideas. edit: typos

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I disagree with you that he phrased it as a threat but I’m not in the mood to argue semantics

We’re 100% in agreement that this shit is scary af

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 month ago

Literally 1933

Signed, a scared-as-fuck German

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Honest question: Do you think the military would obey his orders?

I know the ICE (immigration and customs enforcement) had no problems in doing so, but the military seems to consist of a more varied bunch of people, more patriotic than racist kind of guys, or is that fiction?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Trump is already planning on replacing everyone in the federal administrative state with loyalists. If the military doesn't follow his orders he will keep replacing people in the military until they do.

The real question is will the military do anything to stop Trump? Let's not put ourselves in the position of needing to rally around General Brown in a civil war. Let's vote for Kamala and call Trump weird.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

They’d use border patrol

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Trump, the whining tiny-penised cunt who nobody likes because of how brittle his bones are, has threatened to round up his critics into camps?