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No video released yet but the right wing blog-sphere is already claiming it's AI. Put on your seat-belts and keep your hands inside the car at all times.

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[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is just conspiratorial garbage. That article is garbage. I would love for something like this to take him down, but if you think this has any credibility, please realize that your ability to critically analyze new information is ridiculously clouded by confirmation bias.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

It’s such a waste of time

“Without proof, claims of video of event exists”

And then it’s just random people on twitter

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Did Charlie Kirk tweet that? If so, I'd believe it's 100% for real and they're trying to get out in front of it. Like many posters below point out, his base won't care.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I have a hard time discerning if Kirk knows this, or if he's just projecting after the Swift AI nonsense.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

The tweet is vague. We've seen ai been used already in this election to spread misinformation, so it's saying Democrats might do so could refer to literally anything.

But when put in the context of this supposed tape, it dishonestly makes it sound like they are talking about it.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be happily wrong about this, but this is literally nothing right now.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I would just as rather believe that the whole thing is a right-wing plan:

  1. Get conservatives to harp about an incoming deepfake.

  2. Get liberals thinking talking about it, condemning Trump for something they haven't even seen yet.

  3. Release a video, that actually is a deepfake, a deepfake created BY conservatives.

  4. The deepfake is quickly discovered, and conservatives accuse liberals of trying to frame Trump for sexual assault.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The fact that the some of the most immoral spin-doctors that aren't directly related to the Trump campaign -- Posobiec and Kirk for starters -- are clearly trying to get out in front of some sort of bad news that, based on their comments, appears to be a video grants more weight to claims than this random article.

That being said, whether there is actually a video or they're reacting to the same rumored threat is unknown. Even if it were true, I honestly don't know if it would make enough of a difference for Trump's supporters. And, again if true, the longer they hold the video and allow advance spin and damage control to run unopposed, the less effect it will have. The simple fact is that Trump supporters would then be looking for any reason to simple dismiss/ignore it, and they will undoubtedly be given many reasons by affiliates of Trump's campaign.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

are clearly trying to get out in front of some sort of bad news that, based on their comments, appears to be a video grants more weight to claims than this random article.

This is a lot of assumptions. They are constantly saying Democrats are about to do something bad. It's part of their shtick, and they are just trying to keep people afraid.

But even if we agree and they are clearly trying to get out in front of something that doesn't make anything we put into that hole "has more weight."

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump spin-doctors are specifically referencing that democrats are going to release an "AI-generated" piece of media. I'm assuming that means they're worried something might be released soon. That's it, I'm not putting anything in a "hole," I'm just waiting to see what they're trying to get in front of.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We have two people, who often claim Democrats are about to do something bad, tweeting that Democrats are about to do something bad. This isn't "clearly getting ahead of something" it could just be their typical fear mongering.

You also said that this "fact" gives the claim more weight, but it still could be referring to literally anything.

All we have is some "social media users" saying there is a tape and misleading via context claims that 2 of the hundreds of right wing spin doctors are vaguely referencing a video.

It's absolutely nothing at this point

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Sure there's video. There's a pee tape too. Just like the tooth fairy and a politician that cares. They all exist.