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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, single issue voters who aren't bright enough to understand the big picture and how it effects them.

Or again... failing to realize Trump has a stance on this issue that's literally worse than Harris'..... and has done shit like put the fucking Israel-US Assembly in god damn Jerusalem, basically mandating that Palestine doesn't exist.

It's like imagine one party wants to break your spine and permanently paralyze you, and the other is going to kick you in the shin really really hard, and if you don't vote because neither of those sound good thinking "Oh well, I don't really want either of those." the former is going to win, and it's kind of objectively much worse.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One party wants to break your spine and permanently paralyze you, and the other wants to break your spine and permanently paralyze you. You don't get points for "bad vs worse" when you are talking about supporting a genocidal regime. You don't get to ignore the elephant in the room and expect everyone going "holy shit a fucking elephant" to vote for someone who supports the elephant being there and gaslighting them.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That's a very privileged view you have, that both parties are the same.

There is no "Zero Genocide" option, not because I'm bloodthirsty, but because I am held hostage b y a blood thirsty machine, just like every other American.

Right now, that machine does not need consent to destroy Palestine, but it does need consent to kill pregnant women, to separate latino babies from their parents, to end birthright citizenship, to mass incarcerate transgender individuals in prisons intended for their birth sex, to deport Palestinian-Americans back to Palestine while it's still being bombed... Because this is all Trump wants to do.

You can't kill off the whole group simply because you're upset that there can't be a 100% survival rate here.... And it pains me to say that, I'm not trying to be dismissive, I'm saying that the people you want to save are doomed no matter who is President. But there are still many other lives who will perish under a Trump regime, who won't under a Harris presidency.

Reminder: Trump also supports the genocide of Palestine, but he also supports escalation up to and including Nuclear weapons, Harris would keep it business as usual. Neither is exactly my ideal outcome for Palestine, but you need to let terrible be the enemy of bad.

Edit: Look I'm just gonna post this picture because it shows the situation better than I can explain it

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So why aren't you voting for Trump? After all, you said it yourself - it doesn't matter that people die because MaChInE won't stop. It's better to give up than to not vote for someone who supports killing the people you want saved according to you.

When it comes to Palestine, Trump and Harris are the exact same. Both support killing of Palestinians. She had a chance to do the right thing and get the votes, instead she doubled down. Fuck Harris and fuck Trump.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I never said it didn't matter that people will die, I said Trump will kill more people overall and thus Harris is the best choice for reducing murder.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Kamala is allowing Israel to kill every person in Gaza. I understand that Trump is going to double kill them?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago

I mean, kinda?