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The weirdest part to me is thinking the timeless omnipotent god that the Bible explicitly says considers a thousand years less than nothing actually literally meant that he created everything in what we'd perceive as 7 days when talking to whatever arbitrary scribe wrote down the creation myth for him.
So it's more like God appears to this guy named Abraham and tells him the story and then his great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great, great great grandchildren wrote it down. But in the original Hebrew it doesn't use a word that means day they use a word that means unit of time.
That still doesn't work because plants and trees are created before the sun. Not to mention the lack of pollinators because God hadn't yet created insects.
Clearly you've never played telephone.
I'm just amazed that the ancient israelis got it as close as they did to our modern understanding of the process of the formation of the universe through only oral tradition and not from any hard sources of science.
Personally I'm in the camp that says trust the science and realize that ancient Israeli tribals weren't the best at keeping 100% accurate records.
I'm also partial to the simulation theory variant where we are the sims on Gods PC.
Got it close? It's wrong in almost every way possible. Earth before Sun. Plants before the sun. No insect pollinators until after the sun and birds before land animals.
It's completely random.
It blows my mind that there are atheists who read the Bible literally.
It's fine if you don't read the Bible literally. As long as you also accept that Jesus didn't actually die and resurrect. You didn't read it literally, did you?
It's so nice that you showed up to have a bad faith argument. Look at you so precocious.
You want it both ways.
And I see the insults are starting because you have no reasonable reply.
I'm very open to discuss my beliefs but you have to ask instead of insult.
Have you ever considered that I do believe in a literal Jesus that lived and died. My personal interpretation is God an nth dimensional being fires up the sim known as our universe and has fun designing spacetime and life in our sim for a few billion years. Eventually he gets bored and wants more interactive NPCs. So then God decided to impart sapience via further evolution to our human ancestors. He gets frustrated with the NPCs and their weird primate behaviors and tries to do the authority figure bit, it fails. Makes a new plan become part human and live as a human to understand our perspective better. Immediately realizes how fucked his creation is once it is able to be experienced in our time based chemistry driven existence and absolves the whole sin thing.
I know. That's why I brought it up and you reacted so hostile.
You pick and choose what to believe. You believe in Jesus only because it's in the Bible but don't believe in the parts Bible when it's inconvenient.
Science memes is for science jokes, not Christian apologetics.
I've read your comment history your tone is repugnant and condesending. I do not believe that my definition of hostile and your definition of hostile can be reconciled if you think your comments are amicable.
You dismiss anyone who believes in the entire Bible as reading it wrong, yet find it insulting when it is suggested that you are the one reading it wrong.
I'm only pointing out hypocrisy.
Show me where I said that you were wrong. I have stated what I believe. I have called you descriptions of your attitude. I have expressed amusement that somebody who clearly does not believe in religion would enter uninvited into arguments from a false position of authority on the subject matter while you are very clearly not somebody who's actually read it. If by chance you have actually read from the Torah, the Bible and the Quran, you clearly missed a lot. This is not an attack. I would implore you to work on your reading comprehension skills as they seem to be lacking. There's a reason that you have to take humanities courses in college even if you're going for a full stem career. It's to help you become a more rounded person. One of my choice electives was religious studies. As you age, you'd be best to remember that nobody likes the annoying atheist it's peak 4chan cringe. If you don't believe in God, that's your choice.
You called my comment, which contained no insults, an insult.
If you can say the 7 day creation of the Bible isn't literal, then Jesus's resurrection can be non literal too. That's not an insult. That's pointing out hypocrisy.
There are many who believe in the Bible. You stating that it isn't literal would be an insult to them. But to you, it's not an insult. To you only denying the literal truth of the parts you believe in is an insult.
Isn't it weird how God manifests himself in different ways depending where your physical location on earth is. It's almost like if each culture puts its own spin on religion because there is no continuity between a people that existed thousands of years ago and the people of today.
Just a little fun fact about the abrahamic religions.
It's explicitly stated that there are other gods. It's just that the abrahamic one does not like them and wants to be the god of everything.
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If it wasn't a day then how did all the plants and trees live without sunlight?