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[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Russian people aren't the Russian state

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And that's unfortunate for them.

The Russian state is still hurting other people, they get some of the backlash. C'est la vie.

If there is 0 motivation to 'rectify the issue with leadership' then there is 0 accountability at all.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What backlash do all Americans, all Palestinians, all Israelis, all Chinese, all French, and many more deserve?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't know, but if they want to avoid that backlash there's literally 1 person they can remove to fix it.

Or let me guess, Germans in 1945 didn't deserve the cruelty they got from the red army either?

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don’t know, but if they want to avoid that backlash there’s literally 1 person they can remove to fix it.

Good idea, I expect you hold the same standard for all Americans, French, Israelis, Chinese, and Palestinians too

Or let me guess, Germans in 1945 didn’t deserve the cruelty they got from the red army either?

You're right, they didn't. Shockingly, being cruel to civilians and conscripts isn't cool. If "lashing out against oppressors" is okay then I'm sure you supported what happened in Rwanda? What about the Khmer Rouge killing foreigners?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, Russia celebrates their cruelty to civilians on a yearly basis.

They were cruel to civilians for sport: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1999%E2%80%932000)

~~Maybe~~ Obviously this is the only language Russians understand to teach them to stop.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Russians are not the Russian state, I'm well aware of what Russian(and don't forget other Eastern Bloc militaries did at the time). My relatives were arrested for protesting in the Prague Spring. Actually, one of those relatives runs an organization for political prisoners. This kind of reciprocal cruelty will just make it more common. Just look at the Yugoslav wars, or the eastern front in WW2 if you don't believe me. Or every war that's happened in the middle east or south east asia for the past 50 years. Actually a lot of soviet oppression of the western republics (Ukraine, Causes, etc) was justified based on the cruelties nationalists did from those countries while fighting on the side of the Germans in WW2. This nationalist/xenophobic "revenge" on civilians is evil. (And rests on the same premise as was used to justify 9/11, collective guilt)

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the cruelty had stopped, I would agree revenge is inappropriate.

So I'll stop wishing for, the painful death of Russians, and even donating to buy drones to kill Russian soldiers and wish for the best outcome for all Russian people.

5 seconds after they leave Ukraine.

They have to learn a lesson, and unfortunately Russians only speak the language of blood. Proof cited: the invasion of Ukraine.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

If the cruelty had stopped, I would agree revenge is inappropriate.

Has the cruelty done by the US, France, Palestine(under Hamas), and Israel stopped?