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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 99 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"Are you 15 or more years old? Y/N"

There, that fixed the problem.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

IIRC Norway has an actual Nat ID system, so assuming ðey develop a workable API for it ðis could actually be implemented quite easily.

Preventing kids stealing ðeir parents' IDs to open accounts anyway will be ð actual challenge.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 37 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Is there a reason that you use some character (I'm afraid I don't know the name of it) wherever you would otherwise use "th"? I can't guess if it's some kind of technical issue with federated text, something from a different language you're incorporating, or one of those "I think we should add x symbol to the language so I'll use it to draw attention to the effort" deals, like with the people that use the combined !? symbols whenever both are relevant at once.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 62 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's a thorn, a letter making a th sound. Still in use in Icelandic, I think. In English, it's archaic at best.

Fun fact, when it fell out of use, the letter Y was used to replace it for a while. So when you see something saying "ye olde", verbally it's still "the old".

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 months ago

I actually always wondered about the y in old texts. Thanks!

[–] kryptonite@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's eth, actually, not thorn.

I had thought that eth was used in Old English for the voiced "th" and thorn for the unvoiced "th", but Wikipedia says they were used interchangeably for both sounds.

You're right otherwise. Thorn was not available on printing presses because they were being made in countries that didn't use the letter, which is why the letter Y was used instead until "th" became more common.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eth

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

That's a shame, I would have loved to keep using those thorns and eths. Quite weird to think that they didn't even want to ask for a few customs pieces for those letters.

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m probably doing exactly what they want here (e.g. having a conversation about it), but that letter is called “Eth” and was the Old English way of spelling the “th” sound: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eth

A number of linguistic buffs want to bring it back to the modern English alphabet.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

~~I don't think ð was pronounced exactly the same way as th~~Seems like I was thinking of other languages where they were/are pronounced differently.

[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A møøse once bit my sister.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

What ð heck are are you talking about, it looks normal. To me. Maybe ðeres someðing wrong wið your computer.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 0 points 2 months ago

Is there a reason that you use some character (I'm afraid I don't know the name of it) wherever you would otherwise use "th"?

Passive aggressive typing.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So then the kids will just use a VPN

Yup, ProtonVPN is free, and there are covert ways to purchase other VPNs (i.e. cash in an envelope).

All this would do is make it much harder for their parents to figure out what their kids are doing. If they can access it w/o a VPN, a regular internet logger can help inform parents of their traffic.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago

Kids often have no money, especially not money they can spend online, no?

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so assuming they develop

Psst… ðey

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago
[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whats that O with an aeroplane?

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's the original English letter for th which was more or less deleted from the alphabet when imported printing press types lacked said letter.

Before it got universally replaced by th some printers used y like in "ye olde" which is really pronounced "the old"

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No need of this. Make a mandatory physical check of the ID that can't be subcontracted. People want an account? They need to go to an office and open it there like it was the case in the past for a bank account.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev -1 points 2 months ago

could actually be implemented quite easily.

Without any risk for sure....

[–] Oaksey@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

True but would you prefer weak enforcement or strong enforcement?
Strong enforcement would likely involve the government having better records of your browsing habits.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My government already knows all of my kinks, I include a list of all the porn I watched each year with my tax return. They don't ask for that, but I provide it anyway.

Hey, you never know, maybe you'll get a response with some recommendations. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, after all.

I prefer weak enforcement every time. It's effective for kids who would follow the law anyway, and it doesn't push the kids to use more covert means if they wouldn't follow the law anyway. The latter group is therefore much easier to monitor using standard tools, and good parents with deviant children can use that effectively to help solve their problems before they become more serious.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they admit they're below the age of 15 they should be banned until they reach the mature age.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That'll get them. No one under 15 has any idea what a VPN is.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

How hard up are you for Facebook? Like, there's a technical solution, sure. But a big part of social media's addictive quality is ease of access.

Making access annoying absolutely will curb teen use.

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

downloading and using a vpn is super easy now though?????

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but what they're saying is that even a little bit of friction will make some people give up, and that kills the virality of things like social media

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

IDK... Where I live, a lot of things are blocked. And while there was a decline after the bans, the banned social media are NOWHERE close to being "dead" or "not viral".