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Why are so many Pro-Palestine (I am pro-Palestine and anti-genocide) Americans refusing to vote for Harris due to her stance on Israel? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The vote should be for someone who can get enough electoral college votes to win in the first place, and from there the one who is more likely to listen to public pressure, as well as the same for any congressional seats on the ballot. And probably not vote for the one who is threatening to send the military after those who disagree with them.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Which as a non-American seems to be Harris, right?

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, Harris is the only realistic option. Anyone voting for Trump is a Nazi in the most literal sense of the word.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 20 points 6 days ago

For a vote, yes. I can't even imagine what Trump would do with the situation given another chance. Some may say the same thing as the US has always done, which is one of the problems that will need to be addressed regardless of who wins, but Trump also likes dictators, so support would probably be bumped up even more for Netanyahu.

[–] Quail4789@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The vote should be for someone who can get enough electoral college votes to win in the first place

I like how Americans casually mention we're not a democracy and everyone's just okay with that.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago

Hardly okay with it. Some Americans don't even know how things work to begin with, so ignorance is worse than knowing things are broken but what we have at the moment. Just because I acknowledge that's the current election system doesn't mean I don't think we could do a lot better. That is its own topic with a lot of hills to climb, but some states have started.

And it's a representative democracy with various flaws, one being not the proper number of constituents per representative, and far too much influence from other places that override the public's opinions. Another separate debate.