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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

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[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Losing the election is the only kind of accountability Harris and the Democrats are likely to face for their part in the genocide. Otherwise, what incentive is there for either party to ever oppose it? What message would Americans be sending to the world that we would keep in office someone who's been actively supporting a genocide?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What message would we be sending if our replacement for them is a guy that wants Isreal to "finish the job" with it? Killing fewer people matters more than accountability

[–] small44@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

There is not a big difference between one who say finish the job and one who doesn't say it but give every resources for Israel to finish the job

[–] chaos@beehaw.org 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Do you think electing Trump will be read as "wow, the US is taking a principled stance on Palestinian rights" by the world?

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Electing Trump means Harris loses, which means that enough voting Americans believe that genocide is unacceptable to have held her as accountable as our system allows. It will be read as better than the alternative. Electing Harris means that we've been sold on genocide by a campaign that has embraced the Cheneys of all people.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

... Or more likely, when the guy who was even more anti-Palistine manages to win the election, their takeaway will be to adopt some of those more-anti-Palistine policies and sentiments because they were apparently more popular. You've got the overton window backwards

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 3 points 6 days ago

That certainly seems to be the thinking of the Harris campaign.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

A third party becoming relevant, if not actually winning, could do.

Of course, the last time that happened in the USA they imprisoned the leader.