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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Trump isn't going away, even if he doesn't win. That's what people thought in 2020. Now that Biden's president, Trump will just disappear, right? Wrong.

And yes, I know he said that he won't run again in 2028, but I don't believe it. His cult would beg him to run again, and he'd do it.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think he'll be either dead or not lucid enough to run personally

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We can all hope, and this time we're probably gonna be right.

But the Republicans aren't running out of people.

There's no reason to think Trump's end will make the bad half of America stop this push. There's a relatively good chance they'll find a sufficiently appealing new leader or puppet. If that falls, maybe you can rest and go back to casually provoking the religious right, playing catch with your rights, and still stay safe for a while. Members of the LGBT community dropping "Live and let live." in favor of "Use the right pronouns!" was a potentially fatal mistake.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While you're definitely correct that Trump isn't the last bigot who will run for president, none of them will have rhe same level of influence he did.

Trump is a literal cult leader. You have pastors like Shane Vaughn who literally call him "a messiah." He is literally worshipped. That's why he could get away with Jan 6th, that's why he'll have so many voters no matter what, it's a cult.

With the above said, the his defeat will dishearten his mkst fervent followers. I believe many of them will never be able to bring themselves to vote for another candidate, ever. Not all, but many. Republican voter enthusiasm will be at an all time low.

Following this, the infighting we already see will only get worse as would-be successors fight for the scraps that their titan left behind while others fight to leave Trumpism in the dust. Even if they manage to get a majority, they'd accomplish nothing meaningful.

Their entire plan hinges on Donald Trump's cult influence. The depend on his rabid base of supporters. If he loses this election, that goes away. The remnants will be fought over, but none of them will be able to touch the level of influence Trump himself had. His legacy will leave the Republican party fractured for decades.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The cult leaders are evangelical pastors. They'll find a new guy because it's profitable. They will herd their sheep to a new wolf.

The exploitative business types will follow for the same reasons. They only worship profit and trump literally gives them your tax money, cuts their taxes, and curates the courts to their interests.

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 1 points 4 weeks ago

No, it's Trump. They, Robin Bullock, Kat Kurr, all of them make prophecies about Trump. The whole fucking theology centers on Trump. He's become the lynch pin to their everything. One pastor in particular, Shane Vaugn, claims that "Trump is a messiah."

They have hitched it all to Trump. Without him, it all falls apart. They will try to pivot because they won't just give up their influence, but his second defeated will hurt their credibility. It will sow doubt. And when he eventually kicks the bucket, will, I wager most Christians only have it in themselves to wait on just one messiah to come back.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
  1. He did go away for a while, but not by choice. He was banned from Twitter, his reddit group quarantined, and news stations fucking finally decided to stop reporting on his every stupid statement
  2. Of course he won't run again in 2028, he'll be dead. The dude looks like he's knocking on ~~heaven's~~ hell's door right now.

Yeah, he's 78, and I doubt he'll hold up at 82.

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He might be gone, but his cult isn't.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cults require a charismatic figurehead. Vance doesn't have that. Without a leader, they'll fall into infighting and purity tests.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Who said anything about Vance? Ron DeSantis is right there waiting to take the reins.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago

Ron DeSantis has the charisma of a wet blanket. He doesn't stand a chance.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I hope he lives for 40 more years to watch himself become less and less relevant, with nazi republican losers continuing to pin their hopes on him that he is increasingly unable to deliver.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I fear what they're going to come up to replace him with.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Neoconservatism is dying out. Right wing anti-liberalism is on the rise. Vance is the marshmallow tip of the spear.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The nazis pinned so much of their cult on his engorged, dying pus sac of a body that they may lose a substantial amount of steam if he loses.

A loss of steam that needs to be aggressively and ruthlessly leveraged to undo and bolster against as much of their nazi bullshit as humanly possible.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

bold of you to assume they wouldn't just instantly pivot to the next fascist in line like Ron DeSantis if he went completely out of commission.

even bolder of you to assume they would care if he lost the election. after all, they didn't the first time

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If he doesn't end up in prison or the psych ward he'll be too old to "run" again.