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To address your criticism of my script, a couple days ago one of the mods told me explicitly they were using it as evidence when talking to admins about the issue.

And they saw it was evidence of a bot account or a shared account specifically? The numbers did show the guy submitting duplicate posts and such - which lead jordanlund to apply a temporary ban under rule 3 of that magazine as per https://lemm.ee/post/45466523

And I also apologize if I somehow implied that the script was not useful or worth it. While cautioning how the data should be interpreted, I generally support such efforts. I have no issue with your script.

Why would I look into my database and provide you with additional numbers or provide you info on how you could accomplish this on your own, if I was against this effort, against your script, or opposing you?

Two days later, dude is banned. So yeah, the remaining tides turned.

I think it's more that additional context got revealed - as jordanlund pointed out, abusing DMs is a fast track to getting banned by the admins.

I think the script was a large part of it.

Agreed. Good data is important, and Lemmy in specific has a lack of good mod tools, so anything that can be done to address the gap is not only vitally important, but very necessary.

so the script I wrote for problem users like this will likely come in handy moving forward.

Absolutely.

I’m certain he’ll be back with alts,

On that note, I'd like to finish by explaining my own personal failings and why I might be a bit overly sensitive to someone getting banned without significant justification.

I first joined the fediverse after the API limits got announced on spez's site. But at the same time, my main account was permanently banned. Do you know why?

I sure don't. It came without warning and no one would response beyond the generic "look at our TOS to understand our rules"

I had alts that were unbanned so I could have continued, but I felt really unhappy with the lack of response. Ultimately I decided to delete all my alts and leave spez's site for good.

Later, their legal team did contact me, but even after that, no reason for the ban was ever given.

If a user is banned, they should be told why. And the rules should be made clear upfront before they join. I agree with the reasons why Monk was both temp and perma banned. These rules were clearly visible up front. But there was never an explicit rule that folks who post on /m/politics should only post Dem posts. That should be added to the rulebar of that magazine if that's going to be a rule going forward (and it's a rule I'd have no trouble complying with, just to be clear).

I just want what's fair.