this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2024
189 points (99.5% liked)

Programming

17655 readers
89 users here now

Welcome to the main community in programming.dev! Feel free to post anything relating to programming here!

Cross posting is strongly encouraged in the instance. If you feel your post or another person's post makes sense in another community cross post into it.

Hope you enjoy the instance!

Rules

Rules

  • Follow the programming.dev instance rules
  • Keep content related to programming in some way
  • If you're posting long videos try to add in some form of tldr for those who don't want to watch videos

Wormhole

Follow the wormhole through a path of communities !webdev@programming.dev



founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

There was a lot of engagement in the communities I participate up until a couple of years ago. People were interested and actively discussing a lot of topics. There were a lot of newbies asking questions and people proposing different ways for tasks.

Is it just me or did it reduce a lot? LLMs? Company forums? Other forums I did not move to (e.g. discord)? Reduced interest? Or is it just subjective?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The more time passes, the more information can already be found on the web (including forum threads) and the less need there is to post new threads to these kinds of forums.

[–] plankton@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

generative AI "helps" with this too

why deal with stackoverflow when you can brainstorm with a chatbot that replies instantly

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

And doesn't insult you, and gives you an answer far more tailored to your issue.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And to the end user who doesn't know what they're doing, the end result is the same or the AI one will get them "further".

I say this because if you're following forums, chances are you're following guides, which means you don't understand what it is you're doing. Which is fine, I typically don't either, which is why I have a harder time with Linux.

But realistically, following the guide of Stackoverflow will hit a hiccup and you will be stuck. Following AI, things might not work and need to be troubleshooted, but it will continue answering questions until the two of you put together something that sort of works.

Not because of AI, but because the person kept trying. AI only made it so they didn't need to understand.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I find working with AI to help me understand way better.

Using Linux as an example. If I search for "give me the size of each subdirectory in the current directory" the stack overflow answer will be "just type du -h --max-depth=1" so you copy and paste it and, voila!, it's exactly what you want. Except I have no idea what any of it means.

However, I ask chatgpt, and it will explain that du means disk usage, -h gives a human readable form, and --max-depth=1 will only go down 1 level, without showing all of the subdirectories.

So now I've learned something.

Additionally, with coding, it's a lot like rubber duck debugging for me. Just formulating my question will often lead to an answer, or trying to explain what went wrong with the AI solution helps me get to the proper answer.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

AI does give more reasoning than a forum might, that's true.