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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Overall, a majority of white women support Trump over Harris. People need to grapple with the fact that Trump is quite popular across a surprising number of demographics -- for example, he's more popular with Hispanic voters than any other republican president. He's popular enough that he continues to close the national polling gap (Harris leads by less than 1% now in Silver's poll aggregator; Biden won by over 4% and he still narrowly won the electoral college by only ~80,000 votes), and Nate Silver's projections currently have Trump with a roughly 10% (9.9%) higher chance of winning the electoral college.

And Trump continues to gain as Harris slips, which has been happening slowly but steadily for over a month.

Does it concern anyone else that Republican politicians and voters seem to have dramatic, radical, concrete, and material plans for after they win and after they lose? And it seems like democrats have zero plans if they lose other than to say "it's not possible, I clearly called him a fascist on social media many times"? No one I've spoken with that's a dem or any flavor of left has any concrete plans for if Trump wins. And he's the favorite to win right now. Does that seem bad to anyone else or..? No? OK cool.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, who is meant to generate the plan? I'm pretty sure it wasn't my responsibility, it likely wasn't your responsibility, in fact I'd be willing to be it wasn't the responsibility of any citizen working in a non-government position.

We have no plan because the Democratic party has no plan. We have put our trust and faith in a party of complete fucking fools, the kind of blind out-of-touch idiots who assumed Biden would crush Trump by default. Their only concern is fundraising and making sure their corporate masters are appeased.

If the Dems win, they still deserve to face retribution for this. Work with local unions in your area. Organize to elect leftists politicians to the House and Senate. Replacing Republicans is always the preference, but we shouldn't be afraid to replace Democrats as well.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

what plan exactly are we supposed to have? most of us can't afford to leave the country, and that's the only plan that i can think of. we're all hostage in this capitalist hellscape.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is exactly the sentiment I'm talking about. The only plan you have is to run away and complain about capitalism. The right is organized to fight from the grassroots up to the executive with back up plans for their back up plans. At this point, with apathy like yours, maybe they deserve to win.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm disabled, not apathetic. i am physically not in a position to do that, although i support it fully. it's not cool to judge people when you have no idea what their life is like. i would love to be more politically involved but all my energy is going toward not losing my job, and keeping my family fed and clothed.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

The Democrats haven't won the majority of white voters since the Civil Rights Act was enacted