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Donald Trump has been elected the 47th president of the United States, an extraordinary comeback for a former president who refused to accept defeat four years ago, sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, was convicted of felony charges and survived two assassination attempts.

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[–] Strocker89@beehaw.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure he will, by giving Ukraine to Russia and letting them murder Zelensky.

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure he will, by giving Ukraine to Russia

Wouldn't happen, but even this is way better than giving it to Zelensky.

and letting them murder Zelensky.

No way. I mean that would be awesome of course, bringing justice to that murderer who killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, terrorizing the rest for three years and not letting people escape. But that would never happen, USA almost certainly gave Zelensky some guarantees that he will be able to escape to USA after this war ends.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So Putin is better for Ukraine?

So Putin is better for Ukraine?

For Ukraine - I don't know what "Putin for Ukraine" means.. If Ukraine would be Putin's then it probably wouldn't be Ukraine but Russia (unless Putin would be a president of both countries or something..)? I don't think it would be good or bad, Ukraine existing or not doesn't change much IMHO, but I'm open to hearing your arguments here.

For Ukrainians - of course! The shit that Zelensky does to Ukrainians is exactly (and even worse than) what the west scares public Putin would do. Ukrainians on liberated territories(controlled by Putin) have way more freedoms than those on territories controlled by Zelensky's regime, including one of the most basic freedoms - freedom of movement and not being kidnapped on a street and be sent to die...