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Donald Trump has been elected the 47th president of the United States, an extraordinary comeback for a former president who refused to accept defeat four years ago, sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, was convicted of felony charges and survived two assassination attempts.

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Biden regime did this, no one else.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You ain't seen nothing yet. Trump's most loyal base is Evangelical Christians, and they widely believe in Greater Israel. They also tend to dislike nonwhites. He may not give a rats ass about Israel, but his advisors do, and he personally likes Netanyahu.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All but 1 democrat gave Netanyahu a standing ovation for carrying out this genocide less than 2 months ago. How do you explain your party's staunch near-unanimous support for genocide?

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Actually, 90 dems boycotted that speech. This also deflects from my argument that the situation in Gaza is going to become far more dire in a few months.

To answer your question, though: You know how there's around 2 million Gazans still alive? Starving and desperate, but still alive. It's not just us, but the whole international community that is responsible for that, otherwise Netanyahu could've implemented his "General's Plan" six months ago. Nothing except international leverage can maintain those lives. Leverage is not free, though, it must be purchased somehow. People do not just listen to you otherwise, unless they get something from it. While it would be theoretically possible to attempt sanctions, doing this to an ally during war would be political suicide domestically, resulting in a different administration and reversal of the policy. This would result in their eventual deaths anyway, simply after a delay.

Not that our current timeline is looking any differently, admittedly. But actually saving them is not nearly as simple as everyone seems to think, as if some total boycott of arms to Israel would somehow quickly lead to an Israeli military defeat. Advanced munitions are not necessary for a genocide, it can be done with napalm and the withholding of food. This would not be expensive. Nor are advanced munitions necessary for the continued survival of the IDF, which numbered around 400k strong in the initial stages of the war.

Defeating this genocide is unfortunately far, far harder than people make it out to be, due to a powerful faction of domestic support among American citizens and AIPAC lobbyists.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's not just us, but the whole international community that is responsible for that

No. There is one country giving 17 Billion dollars in weaponry and aid to Israel. Don't blame the "international community" for the genocide being funded and armed by your party. Your own party is opposing the current resolutions in the UN to denounce this genocide.

Israel would quickly go the way of south africa without US support. Will anything make US democrats stop pointing fingers at other people, and start accepting blame for their own actions?

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you reread what I wrote, you'll see that I was not saying the international community was responsible for the genocide.

Israel would quickly go the way of south africa without US support.

This is nothing more than faith. Israel trades with many countries, including India, where anti-Muslim sentiment is very strong among the ruling Hindu nationalists. US contributions are only a small fraction of their total annual budget. All they would really lose irreplaceably is advanced weaponry.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aaaand the racist finger-pointing resumes. Zero recognition for your genocidal party. I shouldn't be surprised.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

Who was I pointing a finger at?

[–] Smith6826@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

And evangelicals have hard-ons for the end times and the second coming of Jesus. They believe the terrorist state of Isreal will somehow accomplish this through their ongoing genocide of Palestinians.

Evangelicals are literally cheering on the end of the world. They are a death cult.