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Jill Stein argues ‘Democrats betrayed their base’ (thehill.com)

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[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you realize that even if every person who voted for Jill Stein or any other third-party candidate had voted for Harris instead, Harris still would have lost?

The margin was big enough that, even without third-party candidates, Trump would have still won the popular vote.

So why are you mad at Jill Stein when her absence wouldn’t have changed the outcome at all?

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh to be clear I don't care about her. At all.

What I do care about is the Green Party under her leadership ineffectually doing anything anywhere. There are candidates from a larger variety of political parties active in state politics than ever before in my lifetime. Communists, socialists, democratic socialists, libertarians, constitutionalists, independents, etc etc etc.

But the Green Party seems to enjoy spending all their money, time, and effort to do literally nothing outside of putting Jill's name on the national ballot once every 4 years.

If the Green Party truly stands for what they claim to, they should be trying to affect grassroots change every year.

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well they have run in local elections and there are quite a few Green Party officials out there. But they should def by trying for more congress roles too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States (thanks to @SyntaxTerror@feddit.org for the info)

State-Level Green Party Officials (Former)

Shane Robinson - Maryland, House, District 39 (2011-2019)
Henry Bear - Maine, House, District 144 (2013-2019)
Ralph Chapman - Maine, House, District 133 (2010-2019)
Fred Smith - Arkansas, House, District 50 (2011-2015)
Richard Carroll - Arkansas, House, District 39 (2009-2011)
John Eder - Maine, House, District 118 (2003-2007)
Matt Ahearn - New Jersey, General Assembly, District 38 (2002-2004)
Audie Bock - California, State Assembly, District 16 (1999-2000)

Current Green Party Mayors

Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois (2021-2025)
Bruce Delgado - Marina, California (2008-2024)
Emmanuel Estrada - Baldwin Park, California (2020-2024)

Former Green Party Mayors

John Reed - Fairfax, California
Mike Feinstein - Santa Monica, California
David Doonan - Greenwich, New York
Kelley Wearvering - Cordova, Alaska
Robb Davis - Davis, California
Peter Gleichman - Ward, Colorado
Jim Sullivan - Victory, New York
Jason West - New Paltz, New York

Current Green Party City & County Council Members

Sylvia R. Chavez - Calipatria, California
David Conley - Douglas County, Wisconsin
Josiah Dean - Dufur, Oregon
Becky Elder - Manitou Springs, Colorado
Bob Gifford - Portage County, Wisconsin
Renée Goddard - Fairfax, California
David Grover - Trinidad, California
Damon Jespersen - Newbury, Massachusetts
John Keener - Pacifica, California
Rebecca Kemble - Madison, Wisconsin
Paul Pitino - Arcata, California
Marsha A. Rummel - Madison, Wisconsin
George P. Steeves - Southbridge, Massachusetts
Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
Daniel Welsh - Lewisboro, New York
Heidi Weigleitner - Dane County, Wisconsin
Stephen Zollman - Sebastopol, California

Former Green Party City & County Council Members

Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois
George Altgelt - Laredo, Texas
Michael Beilstein - Corvallis, Oregon
Bruce Delgado - Marina, California
Jessica Bradshaw - Carbondale, Illinois
Michael Cornell - River Hill Village
Jennifer Dotson - Ithaca, New York
Kathleen Fitzpatrick - Mosier, Oregon
Gail Garrett - Mount Washington, Massachusetts
Matt Gonzalez - San Francisco, California
Cam Gordon - Minneapolis, Minnesota
Art Goodtimes - San Miguel County, Colorado
Daniel Hamburg - Mendocino County, California
Michelle Haynes - Norwood, Colorado
Gary Hull - Sharpsburg, Maryland
Tanya Ishikawa - Federal Heights, Colorado
Brian Kehoe - Catskill, New York
Jason Kirkpatrick - Arcata, California
Mary Jo Long - Afton, New York
Tom Mair - Grand Traverse County, Michigan
Sarah Marsh - Fayetteville, Arkansas
Merrily Mazza - Lafayette, Colorado
Gayle McLaughlin - Richmond, California
Ross Mirkarimi - San Francisco, California
Leland Pan - Dane County, Wisconsin
Dona Spring - Berkeley, California
Chuck Turner - Boston, Massachusetts

Other Green Party Local Officials (Current)

Michael Clary - Coos County, Oregon
Jennifer Baker - Napa Valley College, California
Matthew Clark - San Mateo County
Billy Gene Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
Carl D'Amato - Waterford, Connecticut
Daphne Dixon - Fairfield, Connecticut
Matt Donahue - Benton County, Oregon
Maureen Doyle - Southbridge, Massachusetts
Andrew Frascarelli - Waterford, Connecticut
Frank Gatti - Amherst, Massachusetts
Michael Paul Hansen - Humboldt County, California
Jane Jarlsberg - San Bernardino County, California
Joshua Steele Kelly - Waterford, Connecticut
Vincent O'Connor - Amherst, Massachusetts
Sharron Parra - Hyampom, California
Vahe Peroomian - Glendale Community College, California
John Powell - Montecito, California
Colleen Ann Reidy - Thompsonville, Connecticut
Rebecca Rotzler - New Paltz, New York
Leif Smith - Redding, Connecticut
Darcy Van Ness - Waterford, Connecticut
Baird Welch-Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
Randy Marx - Fair Oaks Water District, Sacramento County, California
Fred McCann - Portland Water District, Portland, Maine
Garrett Erven - Red Wing, Minnesota

Other Green Party Local Officials (Former)

John Amarilios - New Canaan, Connecticut
Korie Blyveis - Newberg Township, Michigan
Hector Lopez - New Canaan, Connecticut
Kim O'Connor - Hillsborough County, Florida
Jill Stein - Lexington, Massachusetts
Raymond C. Meyer - Lucas County Health Center, Iowa
Amy Martenson - Napa Valley College, California
MK Merelice - Brookline, Massachusetts
Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't believe you 🤷

Jill Stein couldn't govern a fucking paper bag lmao.

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Well, in the end it didn't matter. Harris lost by such a large margin, none of the votes that went to Jill Stein would have mattered anyway.

I mean, you guys lost the freakin' popular vote to Trump!

The majority of the United States didn't agree with you or your candidate. And they showed you just how much they didn't like you guys by voting.

Trump won the election, and the popular vote; the Republicans won the Senate AND the House.

You and other democrats need to change your methods and your attitudes.

Your bullying didn't change my mind, or the minds of all the voters who voted for Trump. Remember when you all accused me of being a bot? And accused me of being Russian. And said I'd disappear after election day? Or that I was a team of people posting "propaganda"?

None of it was true, and it was just bullying, and you guys trying to quiet any dissenting voices.

That's why you lost, friend.

And I'm still here, having the best time of my life.