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[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 94 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I hope liberals learn from this and start organizing. The billionaire-funded Democrat party will never pin blame on the capitalists that fund them to get working class votes.

As this article points out:

Bernie’s coalition was filled with the exact type of voters who are now flocking to Donald Trump: Working class voters of all races, young people, and, critically, the much-derided bros. The top contributors to Bernie’s campaign often held jobs at places like Amazon and Walmart. The unions loved him. And— never forget — he earned the coveted Joe Rogan endorsement that Trump also received the day before the election this year. It turns out, the Bernie-to-Trump pipeline is real! While that has always been used as an epithet to smear Bernie and his movement, with the implication that social democracy is just a cover for or gateway drug to right wing authoritarianism, the truth is that this pipeline speaks to the power and appeal of Bernie’s vision as an effective antidote to Trumpism. When these voters had a choice between Trump and Bernie, they chose Bernie. For many of them now that the choice is between Trump and the dried out husk of neoliberalism, they’re going Trump.

Read Blackshirts and Reds

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We need at least one new party in this country, and one that runs for local elections first to build a bench of people who can run for higher office.

Even if I didn’t believe the national Green Party was just a spoiler (regardless of how they started out,) they spend all their time and energy pushing a presidential candidate every four years rather than working on ground game.

I think states like Texas are actually fertile ground if you focus on what people are dealing with in their day to day life and start small-county commissions, town council positions, even sheriff if you have a county where the local sheriff is unpopular and your party platform is looking at criminal justice reform.

I also think pushing for changes to use ranked choice voting with proportional representation would generate long-term change. Single Tranferable Vote has worked well in Ireland, and historically it worked well in multiple American cities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote?wprov=sfti1

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think the problem isn't the cities, it is the rural bits in between that won't want to give up their excess power per vote in the current system.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those are also places where a lot of regressive candidates run unopposed and hold office for decades because they’re the only ones who have an interest in the position. Prime spots for someone with different ideas to throw their hat in the ring.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was specifically talking about changing the election system, not just getting elected.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Liberals and neoliberals are the problem. The only solution is for progressives to start a new party. The DNC just showed that it is incapable of learning, constantly courting the right that will never actually vote for them, or telling billionaire donors to fuck off.

Liberals are just conservatives that refuse to take their masks off. Neoliberals even more so. These are the "white moderates," and the "supporters of the MIC," that Martin Luther King Jr., and Eisenhower warned us about.

Bernie showed us the way forward. Billionaires are merely dragons to be slain and ignored.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been seeing suggestions for that book a lot. I was even going to see if I can grab it from my local library, but it's just an e-book for some reason. I guess I can read it on my tablet but i prefer physical books. I do want to support my library though by using them, so it's a tough choice lol.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can always check out the e-book version even if you go find a physical copy to read instead. I saw a librarian asking people to do stuff like that since the active use of library services let's them argue for better funding and services.

Also, see if they have a physical copy at another branch. My local library is part of a network that spans across multiple towns, and they can often get books sent to them from other branches if they don't have a copy themswlves.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Good idea. I haven't used my local library in awhile, but I'm worried about library funding with Trump. It's why this is the first time in a long time I looked into a book from the library. I'm using any excuse to like you said, argue their services are being actively used. It's good to hear it confirmed that it does actually help librarians and that they're encouraging that.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Please note that the "Bernie bros" that became right wing could have been psyops. I've seen a few ones stupidly admitting it, because Trump would have struggled against Bernie, maybe even have lost in a landslide.