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I’ve a lot of discourse online about how the Democratic Party held back Bernie Sanders from becoming president in 2016 & 2020 during the primaries. But my question to that is, are primaries not decided by the voters to get the most delegates? If the people didn’t vote for him, how is that the Dems’ fault?

A counter I see for that is that Dems endorsed his primary opponent to sway the vote. I dont really think that would have much impact on committed voters. Trump got almost no help in the primaries in 2016 and still won.

Is this narrative true and I’m just oblivious?

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'm so fucking jealous of how transparently GOP primaries are run (or were - I suspect Trump is going to try and start a dynasty now).

In 2016 someone who was the brother and son of previous presidents ran and lost the GOP primary. Can you imagine how hard the system will be rigged if it's ever AoC vs. Chelsea Clinton?!

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

..........at this point, I've mentally checked out. I know that doesn't carry much weight since you don't know me, but I'm someone who's 41 years old and turned down higher paying jobs to keep the low paying job I have all because the job I have now actually helps people rather than profits. I work at an airport, as a mobility assistant. It pays a low wage. However, if your 95 year old grandma wants to come visit for the holidays, or if your dementia riddled father needs to come see you, I'm there with a wheelchair and make it possible for them to navigate these long hallways. For YEARS I've taken the financial hit, knowing I'm making the world a better place. Tuesday was like being hit in the balls. I make the personal sacrifice to not be able to do certain things I want in life, so others can enjoy a better life. In my mind maybe that will inspire other people to help others. And if everybody begins to think of everyone else, maybe we can have a world that isn't so full of shit.

No.

Instead, I'm shown county by county, which areas in Florida are most heavily occupied by Latino-American citizens, heavily voting for trump. It wasn't some "some like him, some don't". No, this is in those counties a landslide. The man who said in 2016 that he wanted to build a wall to keep Mexicans out. The man who used ICE to seperate and kill families in metal detainment boxes in 115 degree weather. The man who is openly racist on TV. THAT'S who they voted for??? The man who isn't even hiding it. He's outright been telling people that he'll make 2024 the last election you need to vote in. His PUBLIC words, not mine. And it's not just the Latinos. It's ALL of America. Of every race. I just picked Latinos as the example because it's absolutely baffling that they of all people picked him. It would be like Jews voting for Hitler.

So now, I'm looking at this world, and thinking "THIS is the world I'm trying to make a better place??? I'm going to stick my neck out and try to help an entire nation that just overwhelmingly picked racism, facism, and a dictatorship as part of the campaign promises??? Ok. Fuck it. I guess maybe I should have been selfish all along. I guess when I looked at the rest of the world, being selfish the last 20 years, I thought maybe I could inspire the world to be better when I died, and less selfish. Nope. I'm wrong. Fuck Earth, and fuck humans.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh hey - I'm in no way supporting the outcome but with how heavy handed the DNC is in the primary process the GOP's process was a lot more level of a playfield.