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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah. The newly Republican controlled Congress can legislate denaturalization bills.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C4-1-5-1/ALDE_00013170/

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Agreed, but they would have to pass legislation and imagine the protests and media shit storm Trump would face if he started revoking citizenship. It would be a massive time and energy suck for the GOP.

I’m all for anything Biden can do that will distract this Congress and administration from being able to do other shit.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The current Congress is far less effective with split control than the fully Republican controlled Congress we have coming. The President can veto congressional legislation, but does not have the authority to redefine their power.

Trump wouldn’t be the one revoking citizenship. It would be Congress. He’ll just point the finger.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Why are people still discussing parliamentary bullshit like this? The man promised to be a dictator. He will have absolute power.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup, I understand that. But he would have to get alignment from the few moderate republicans and senators in border states to start revoking citizenship. The GOP will have a slim majority and it will have its Joe Manchin to contend with. Old school republicans like Collins, Murkowski, Curtis are going to have a LOT of power.

Moreover, if you start kicking Americans out of America, that shit is going to be a media cluster fuck. New immigrants and kids of immigrants that voted for Trump will be forced ask “who’s next?”

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What does he care? He’s not getting elected again. If he has a third term, it’ll be through systemic manipulation, not election.

Congress doesn’t need gubernatorial support to denaturalize. They can use the Naturalization Act of 1906 to change the requirements for qualifying for or maintaining naturalization, allowing for immediate revocation of citizenship and subsequent deportation.

”there must be strict compliance with all the congressionally imposed prerequisites to the acquisition of citizenship. Failure to comply with any of these conditions renders the certificate of citizenship ‘illegally procured,’ and naturalization that is unlawfully procured can be set aside.”

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What the fuck does the law matter when they'll literally just be deporting people by the millions and not letting them back in?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I’m referring to denaturalizing existing citizens to be deported, which has been an unused congressional power since 1906.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why do you think they have to pass legislation? We just overwhelmingly elected a man who promised to be a dictator.

Do you not know how dictatorships work?