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My guy... It's not the forest dying, but our sole basis of life. Economic hardships? None of that matters when the climate collapse goes on, and it will. We did fuck all even before Trump, right on our way to 3 degrees Celsius globally. We already seem to have reached 1.5 degrees LONG before even our worst predictions. And under Trump the US will backtrack HARD on any sort of token climate policy. The world cannot compensate for the emissions of the US. And you may think getting people to fight help, but it doesn't. Trump and his cronies do not care how much you're protesting, in fact, they'll have plans for that too to suppress it. But that also does not matter, because here's the truth of the matter: NO ONE CARES!
Look around, look at how few people actually vote for Green candidates and parties, look at how many are already crying about a bit of inflation and price gauging. Real climate policies, the ones we'd need, would drive our economies into the ground. Remember the economic downturn during covid? If the emission fall of that would've gone on until 2035 THEN we would've been on track, meaning we'd have to experience this kind of economic freefall continuously - JUST FOR THE TARGETED 1.5 DEGREE GOAL (which again, came MUCH earlier than anticipated)!
Neither corporations, nor politicians, NOR VOTERS, actually care! People who truly want proper climate action being taken are a fringe movement of "extremists". Maybe we see some of them turn to climate terrorism, but I doubt even that would help. In reality, we'd need a proper global climate revolution, but there's 0 support for that. And by the time shit is going to hit the fan sufficiently it will be long too late to avoid anything that isn't some post apocalyptic nightmare full of suffering for the few people that still survive.
This election was decisive, and humanity lost. Fuck Americans. Fuck humans.
Even if that is true, why take out your frustration like this, by raging against those of us who are willing to do all the good we can?
I am not promising that we will be able to fix everything. Heck, I don't even know if we can fully fix anything. But until every last living being is dead, there is something here that deserves every chance we can give or get.
You don't have to participate, but to argue against this kind of work is like denying pain medication to someone who is dying and justifying it by saying 'meds will not save you'. If we can't save the life, we can at least save them from as much suffering as we can manage.
Deluding yourself is neither going to help, nor is it all the good we can do. And what do you mean I don't have to participate? I doubt any of your guys footprint is even anywhere near as small as mine. It's not me that you have to convince to fucking do something when I'm the one who wants those "extremistic" measures being taken.
And where am I ruling that out? I never said that this resistance would always be peaceful. But the sooner you start coordinating with the people around you, the better prepared for that violence we will be, and the better our chances are to prevent a lot of deaths. You can claim otherwise, but sitting alone while my neighbors and friends die is unconscionable to me.
But what am I deluding myself about? I have literally admitted that what we do may not be able to fix things entirely, but we doom ourselves more if we don't take action. You obviously know that already, given your statement about your footprint, so why are you arguing against another person calling for direct action?