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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/02/1002107670/historian-uncovers-the-racist-roots-of-the-2nd-amendment

Tl;Dr the Constitutional Congress didn't really believe in citizen militias providing a sufficient check on federal power. Some power, sure, but by and large the British armies destroyed the militias in the field, with only a few notable successes.

They did, however, recognize that they could serve as a rapid reaction force for wars against natives and putting down slave revolts until the real army showed up. And, of course, militias could be rolled into a professional army and retrained, like what happened with the Civil War.

That isn't to say a genuinely popular revolt wouldn't work, it's just not what the 2nd was really about.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Oh I know, but I just want Trump and his fascists dead.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's going to be less of an argument after the US readopts slave labor but knock yourself out!

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For the US to readopt slavery, wouldn't it have to give slavery up first? The thirteenth amendment specifically allows for the enslavement of prisoners. That's a big part of the reason we put so many blacks in prison.

[–] microphone900@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They'll just make a whole lot of stuff illegal, selectively enforce those laws, and BOOM increase the prison slave population. Hell, the South did it after the Civil War to get it's slave labor back, how hard would it be to do nationwide now.

.. you've just described America as it is. The legal concept of loitering is exactly what you described and it's so old you thought it was always around.

The US has openly practiced slavery for its entire history. Private slavery at that. Nationwide, with full support from all political parties in power.

The US has the largest slave population in the world. One of the largest in world history. That was before Trump.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

That's fair, but there's at least some difference between chattel slavery and the prison industrial complex. If the traditionally inclined right wing "libertarian" voices that are the sorts of folks the Heritage Foundation hires have their way chattel slavery is back on the menu.