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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You know how I know this is bullshit? Because even if Trump got the maximum sentence for each of his felony counts, which is three years of prison, they can all be served concurrently, so he would be out by November 2027 with more than a year left of his term.

If Judge Merchan proceeds with sentencing, Trump's legal team will just appeal and push it back until after Jan 20th.

Nice wishful thinking, but Trump winning erased the chances of him ever being held accountable for his crimes against the American people. A majority of Americans felt like he should get away with all of it. On day one he will appoint a sycophant to the DOJ who will drop all of his federal cases, and the state cases will get paused because the President is immune from state prosecution while on office.

If anybody here wanted to see justice done, you should have shown up on the 5th.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

so he would be out by November 2027 with more than a year left of his term

In the extremely unlikely event he was sent to prison for 3 years then Vance would immediately use it as an excuse to invoke the section 4 of the 25th and make himself president.

Then we'd have a reasonably competent person in the white house delivering Project 2025 instead of the incompetent asshole

Trump wouldn't be delivering p25. He's always been a puppet.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If he's not convicted of anything he can't pardon himself. Is there a statute of limitations on inciting an insurrection, or whatever ge was going to be charged with? Just pick up the case again in Jan 2025.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He won't have to. He'll just have his own DOJ appointee dismiss the federal cases against him. This will 100% happen on day one of his presidency. I have no doubt in my mind that he already has a person in mind for it and they will be his first appointment after his swearing in.

For the state cases, he doesn't need to do anything, they won't result in a sentencing verdict that can't be appealed before he takes office, and the state courts cannot prosecute a sitting president.

The best case scenario is that the state cases that he can neither dismiss nor pardon himself for will resumed at the end of his term in January 2029. That's a long fucking time to wait for justice, and even then, we won't know if he will even serve time for it. The presiding judges could die or retire and sympathetic judges could be appointed in the meantime. The states could flip to be controlled by MAGA AGs and decide to drop the cases even while they are paused.

The likelihood of this guy seeing the inside of a jail cell before he dies is almost 0%.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah, I meant 2029 instead of 2025. I know it's a long time but I was hoping that without an actual verdict the case could be brought up again when (if) the criminals no longer run the justice system. I know some cases are dismissed with and without prejudice, so if there's any way they can officially be legally/permanently dispensed with I know he'll do it.

I guess the best we can hope for is for him to just die soon. Just keep on eating those hamberders

You can't really prosecute a dictator for crimes when they control all of the branches of government.