296
Democrats are trying to work out what went wrong. On the left a consensus is forming
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2024
296 points (97.1% liked)
politics
19126 readers
2473 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I think they’re saying that some nations’ options are subjectively dubbed “left and right” based on relative comparison, not the ideologies themselves.
And I'm saying that's propaganda.
For those who don’t know the difference between practice and ideology it is. Your comments lead me to believe you have a pretty solid grasp of political philosophy.
I don’t think the comment above was an attempt at justification, but an explanation of why we use the terms left and right subjectively.
I get that. But the subjectivity is lack of political education and media bias.
In other words, it's not subjective, really. It's a misnomer that's been spread through propaganda by both parties. And repeated ad nauseam by the media.
People need to understand that the democrats are centrists drifting right, in order to understand that there are other real options, like organizing, striking, and community action/mutual aid. Otherwise, everyone is going to sit on their hands for the next four years, praying that the democrats save them.
It doesn’t matter how progressive US Democrats are this term. Republicans control the Presidency, Congress, and SCOTUS.
Democrats can only criticize while Republicans steer the nation for the next four years.
Id argue democeats are only progressive when they can't make laws. Once they get the mjaority, suddenly the amount of progresive intent withers. Bidens immigration policy used the same camps as Trumps, but I never saw a teary eyed AOC go back to the camps after Biden was voted in. The most progressive things we get from Dems is publicity stunts when they're powerless.
What actions did you expect AOC to take as part of the House minority?
Literally what I just said, she could at least visit the camps like she did as part of the House Minority under Trump. Did you not read that part or did you intentionally ignore it?
There’s no need for condescension. I asked about action. What legislative action could her appointment allow her to take?
Read what's written next time then. I have no dialogue for someone who skips what i wrote to get in a gotcha then tries to move the goal posts.
What legislative action is visiting camps?
Asking you to clarify is not moving goalposts. Your failure do to so is evasive.