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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They cannot and they will not. Please do not fall for them yanking the football away from you again. AOC and Bernie exist to give you hope and thereby capture your vote for a party that has no intention of ever fighting for the working class in a meaningful way. We need a real alternative but we've given away so much of our collective power (unions) that it's hard to see a hopeful path forward. Organize with your neighbors and start building trusted communities that will fight together when needed.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you mean to say that AOC and Bernie are unknowingly treated as pawns by the Democrat party or that they are knowingly misleading voters into thinking the party leans further left than reality?

I would assume if anything it's the former, and Democrat idealism has lost against the reality that a third labor party cannot take root while first-past-the-post is the rule of the game.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Would it matter which?

The DNC insiders clearly have no intention of letting the public have a voice in the party. Having a couple socialists around is supposed to secure the vote from the left. Neither Sanders nor AOC(nor other progressives) are leaving the party anytime soon.

It's fair to argue that splitting the party means losing to the right but the current strategy doesn't seem to be working out either.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sanders already left the party

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Technically he's always been independent but primaried for office under a democratic ticket.

So fair? The dems still use him in this way and he is a close enough ally to be synonymous. Unless there's more recent news?

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 2 weeks ago

Good. We all should. The party is dead and barely alive by the shambling corpses of pelosi and Biden assuming they will be able to control it forever.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

It would matter if they ultimately decided to break away from the Dems.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

As the other comment says, it hardly matters. Fwiw I think they are well-intentioned but if their strategy is working for anyone, it's working for the corporatist dem party.