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Jake Paul beats Mike Tyson in manufactured mismatch as Father Time comes calling
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2024
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I'll take your word for it. I've never really understood the whole idea of boxing being entertaining in the first place.
Skilled athletes are entertaining to watch. Guys that know how fight and do it well, at least. It can be a highly technical, highly skilled competition. Some people are just there to watch two adults beat the piss out of each other. Which, to be fair, is how the sport started.
Same. Even the match before with the girls seemed like it was an incredible fight for boxing, and it was still just as entertaining as a rock ‘em sock ‘em robot game.
Back in the 70s and early 80s boxing was incredible. Ali was still a contender and Spinx, Fraser, Sugar Ray, Marvelous Marvin, Holmes and Durán lit up their weight classes like a Christmas tree.
Then Tyson entered the sphere and blew the doors off. He was fucking amazing to watch back then. His precision and power were something we'd never seen before and we were in awe.
I honestly think UFC ruined boxing.
Nah, boxing ruined boxing with their ass-backwards scoring and match decision-making. Look at Mayweather vs Pacquiao, or even Taylor vs Serrano, where that latter clearly had the upper hand in their respective fights, but the decision went to the formers on technicalities and judging particulars. It's disenchanting to many spectators to see a fight where, betting aside, the majority of people view the fight as going one direction while a small minority place the outcome differently.
I can understand that those things are issues, but to me, boxing is such a boring sport compared to UFC. I would watch boxing pre UFC cause it was all we had. But now it’s just boring.
Pre-Dana White commercialized ufc was crazy to watch. The same octagon, but with almost no rules meant busted arms, legs, etc.
I remember the first time I saw it (on video, pre-streaming days) and it was far more gruesome than boxing ever was.
I think you're right that UFC ruined boxing.
Also 20 minute or grappling with very little action followed by somebody tapping out for no reason.
I can say at least I understand martial arts, even if it’s not my thing, because there’s so much artistry in that and it’s a full body thing whereas boxing is basically just too dudes punching each other. Hit me up when the fighters start using Instant Transmission and Special Beam Cannon and I’ll give it another look
(note - I'm a relative noob for boxing. I attend semi regular classes at a local gym but don't tend to watch much at all)
Boxing requires a huge depth of skill and not a huge breadth. It's one of those sports where the basics are 99% of the sport. Definitely makes it seem like 2 dudes just going at each other, but the amount of skill and raw stamina needed to be remotely competitive is insane. Even with gloves, those punches still hurt like a mother fucker and then you're expected to not only keep going after receiving a few dozen, but expected to dish out your own
Yeah, martial arts makes sense to me. Even (real) wrestling makes sense to me.
I'm sure boxing actually does require a lot of skill, but it just looks like two guys punching each other to me.
Well it's physical exercise so you'd have to do some to understand it better 😜
You could have just not said that.
Dude, Its a made for TV boxing match and his opinion came from it so I made a joke. Sorry if I dont study each individual's backstory. This is the internet and you guys really love making an anonymous forum personal.
Ooohhh, it was just a JOKE when you said that shitty thing to a stranger for your own emotional needs. Sorry, I didn't realize.
Sometimes a joke is just a joke. But you guys want to wave your moral superiority over me, that's fine. Let me tell you declaring war on every little thing someone says gets tiring. Next time you watch a movie with a fat joke in it are you going to turn it off and write the director a letter?
I think that's exactly what they'll do. No sense of humor, lauds their false moral superiority over people because they feed on outrage. They need it to survive.
Nah that neckbeard wanted to "I can't even" boxing. They can take that somewhere else.
They should be allowed to state an opinion without being attacked. If you are so fragile you can't tolerate the idea that there are people who aren't into things you like, you aught to take THAT somewhere else.
Oh, I'm not an admin. I'm not removing his ability to say what he said. Likewise to the whole "people are entitled to their opinions" tripe; nobody is deleting opinions.
But I think you're confused. I'm "attacking" someone being negative and shitting on boxing. They're doing the "I don't even get rap, country suckkksss" thing. You know, where you don't like something other people like so you pretend it's utterly bizarre and alien. Like what you're describing. The behavior you think should be taken elsewhere.
This comment thread is like a boxing match, I like it
I agree with you. It's like saying "sportsball" in a condescending way. He was being dismissive when he said I don't get how it is entertaining in the first place.
I don't know dude, people have been fighting other people, for sport, for fucking thousands of years, but you don't understand the "idea of it being entertaining."
That is straight up, deliberate obtuseness. I am not really a boxing fan, but I thought your response was warranted.
I disagree physically exercise should not be hazardous to the body. NFL and any form of fighting is just short term oriented without care about the long term consequences. Look at boxing https://journals.lww.com/cjsportsmed/fulltext/2023/11000/a_systematic_review_and_meta_analysis.14.aspx
Dude. 🤬
Please note the second paragraph from the bottom.
Specifically the part inside the parentheses.
Bro.
Wtf.
That's awful.
It was awful for a long time, but honestly I've come to terms with it. I'm at a stable weight, I'm getting the nutrition I need, I'm working on a solution. It's going to have to take a back seat since we're emigrating soon, but it is what it is for now and I'm not dying.
It's much more awful for my wife and daughter than it is for me to be honest.