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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They/them is not used exclusively to refer to neuter things, so enbies not being gender neutral is irrelevant here. 'They' is a useful and pre-existing catch-all.

[–] rxin@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

they/them is what I hope we all eventually settle on as standard for NB gender identities.

This part is the one I'm referring to. I'm not opposed to they/them — it's good, but I don't think it's fair to reduce enbies to just "they/them".

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

... why?

Is that any more absurd than "reducing males to he/him" or "reducing females to she/her"?

It's language, not a campaign medal. You don't need a separate example for every instance.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere 5 points 4 days ago

The whole point of pronouns, I would argue, is to not need a separate set for every instance.

Otherwise you may as well just use Dan/Dan/Dan's/Danself conjugated for each name.

Pronouns:

  • Are (generally) shorter than names, because there's less need for them to be unique and they're used more frequently.

  • Can be used even when you don't know specifics about a person or object, or they don't want to give out their name.

  • Everyone knows how to conjugate them, so once you know someone is a 'they', you can readily extrapolate to them, their, theirs.

[–] rxin@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well exactly because they/them is a catch-all and there aren't just he/hims and she/hers

let enbies express themselves too!