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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump. You have nothing but my deepest sincere disgust and deserve whatever happens to you.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I sincerely hope you're never in a position of authority.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sorry I have no sympathy for those that vote against their self interests.

I'm not gonna feel sorry for the guy that willingly cut off his nose to spite his face.

[–] superkret@feddit.org -4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sorry I have no sympathy for those that vote against their self interests.

So you don't have sympathy for >99% of the American voters.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At this point I don't have sympathy for 99% of humanity let alone Americans. History has shown me we'll make the wrong choice almost every single time and at this point I just want humanity to die out and quit poisoning the world.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Tried twice. Decided I'd stick around to see what kinda shitshow would form. Not surprised in the slightest that we've once again taken 10 steps backward.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 4 days ago

No, just the 1% who threw their vote away.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump.

Are white people exempt from that or why did you choose that wording?

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I chose that wording because Trump is a massive racist and yet all these minority groups he's openly shit on still voted for him and they can get fucked.

Because yeah Mr. "Build the wall" is totally gonna have your back.

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Oh and everybody fucking clapped. Get over yourself because while you do whatever the fuck this is, real ones are out there building solidarity and dual power. Snap out of your neoliberal yesteryear and into the reality that what matters now is a.) channels/orgs for mutual aid b) Solidarity Economies (aka folks having a foothold in their local economies and c) Encouraging anti-authoritarian parenting methods.

We are in this mess because we want that EZ fix. Just vote against (obtuse, christo-)fascism so you can go back to bed for 4-8 years (while magrinalized folks get to suffer) -- Instead of looking at the big picture.

You know who looked at the big picture and built (astroturfed anyway) grassroots? All these right wing ghouls.

Im not gonna rewrite this for every clown at the top of every thread playing the blame game.

Get involved. Engage prefigurative politics. Identify the root causes and move on to the solutions.

Or keep yelling at scarecrows you imagine. Just dont be surprised if that turns you into someone people dont want to be around.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Solidarity? Really? Where was the solidarity when the choice was an obvious fascist or literally anything else? Zero fuckin sympathy for the people that voted for the man who openly said he was gonna make their lives harder. The man who openly said he's gonna deport as many people as he can. The man who's openly been a steaming pile of shit since his first fuckin presidential run.

They voted to fuck themselves over and I'm supposed to help them? Lay in the bed of shit you made and fuck right the fuck off.

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Where was the solidarity when the choice was an obvious fascist or literally anything else?

Im not being condescending here:

In every city.

It even happens to exist outside of cities!

You can find mutual aid groups wherever you are. If you're asking, you need to engage beyond the bare-minimum of electoralism.

Here's a short vid from like past 48? hours about finding yours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcZjj0NGIaY

Now go re-read and find me where I'm telling you to go cozy up to a maga-hat of any life-experience at all, and strike up solidarity with them.

No. Quit with the doom obsession. It is a distraction so as to avoid doing something more meaningful about the root causes.

To quote a friend: (speaking on such quislings)

many people will unfortunately need to learn this the hard way it seems at the expense of those who take the time to see the writing on the wall those ignorant to their exploitation will seldom listen to those who try to tell them how horribly theyre being fucked "if it were really so bad id notice" theyll say "this isnt so bad" theyll say, standing on the peak of the mountain that is dunning-kruger unknowing all we can do is wait, and watch to find out what what it is that throws them into the valley of unfathomable uncertainty in the meantime we must work for each other, for those who do see how good things could be. maybe then, our greener grass will coax them into giving us a fair listen

So, I repeat: Quit with this dopamine loop. You feel so strongly? Then go be about it.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Can you just rewrite it for us here now because it doesn't make any fucking sense? I dont agree with the guy you're replying to, but I can't understand wtf you're trying to say. It reads like it was written by a stroke victim.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Since you are so much against voting I have good news for you: You wont have to ever vote again now! There wont be free elections in america again after all

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ooh ooh i have something for this!

Right so, certainly a topic worth caring about. "So much against voting" is a simplifcation. Kinda gross one, one could even say

https://crimethinc.com/2016/04/29/feature-from-democracy-to-freedom

But you dont have all that time for giving a fuck about the way representive modern neoliberal democracies fall short, so let's leave it at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7KUhBxpD14

If you spend the next 2 or 4 years building the expectation that their wont be an election, you are doing their work for them

So, whats yr deal? Are you here manufacturing consent on bebalf of fascists, or are you going to build Muatalism style in your physical proximity. Riding the fence doesnt make sense. ✨️

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is the response I didn't have the mental energy to write. Thank you.

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

Heh, ty dor saying so. I got sick of seeing it.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

God, you people really can't live without a boogeyman or a scapegoat. Y'all disgust me.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's not a scapegoat. I expected white people to vote for him. Minorities voting republican can always get fucked. If you're part of the problem you're equally to blame, but if you're dumb enough to vote against yourself you're a special kind of stupid.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev -2 points 3 days ago

Wouldnt people who voted for someone who hates them just be misinformed?

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 3 days ago

Congratulations on discarding your humanity and becoming a fascist. “Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds”.