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Arab Americans who supported Trump in battleground states like Michigan express concerns over his key appointments, particularly pro-Israel figures like Mike Huckabee, Marco Rubio, and Elise Stefanik, who oppose a two-state solution and back Israel’s actions in Gaza.

While some voters hoped Trump would prioritize peace in the Middle East, his picks have fueled unease about his administration’s direction.

Outreach leaders like Massad Boulos, who engaged Arab American communities during Trump’s campaign, have yet to secure roles, leaving some supporters questioning their expectations of Trump’s policies.

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, this as well.

All while the Democrat strategy was to... not do any effective counter propoganda at the same scale or in the same manner whatsoever, keep relying on the traditional media outlets that they also simultaneously know are dying and becoming more biased against them.

But then they also do a surprise pikachu face when the mediums they know are dying and irrelevant... don't reach people.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They simply don't have the funding to do the same operations at scale. Which is the whole point. Recently it was found out that Russians were funding Tim Fool and other right wing influencers to the tune of nearly $100,000 a week to put out a barely edited propaganda video once a week. Every two weeks he made as much money as recognizable notably left leaning media members like Sam Cedar earn in a year.

People keep posting about how Democrats keep breaking fundraising records. They only break them once every 4 years generally. And those are only the records we're aware of.

Between all the dark money behind groups like Fox News, OANN, daily wire, The Blaze, and millions of other smaller propaganda Outlets. None of whom turn a profit on their own or make money. They are funded through wealthy Investments because they know the propaganda pays dividends.

Democrats haven't had funding like that since before Reagan broke the unions. Which is specifically why Reagan broke the unions. And a lot of our problems can be traced back to the loss of Union power and Union fundraising.

You want to know why Democrats don't pay a lot of attention to the unions anymore. This is why. The unions and people in general cannot even begin to compete with the amount of money sloshing around out there for conservatives. And that's why Democrats have been out there so busy chasing it. Until we get rid of money in politics. Or actually find a way for regular people to begin to push back in similar ways there won't be a change.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well we can't get money out of politics because all the money will vote against getting money out of politics.

So any plan to do this will have to involve radical action outside of the norms of polite society which may or may not be against the rules of this community to describe in greater detail and specificity.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

There's plenty social action we've only begun to use. Exclusion, ostracization, and especially ridicule to it's fullest extent. People in the last 8 years have started cutting out conservative family members. We need to go further. Are you on twitter? Then you should be ridiculed and harassed about it till you leave. Facebook? Same thing. Do you watch cable news, or any outlet that has these people. Especially if they don't have the journalistic integrity to push back. Who the hell is dumb enough to watch that shit. Not anyone we would willingly associate with. Though that's only part of the equation.

We also need to promote and work hard to support actual non profit driven journalism. Building up viable alternatives. Nationwide and in our communities. There are people out there who need a bigger audience. If you're familiar with YouTube coffeezilla for instance.

Our complacency has been our downfall. This time a French Revolution style action will not work. They won't all be located conveniently nearby to go after. They will be all over the world many of them hard to reach. In the end even France has still rotted from the inside regardless. And I shouldn't even have to mention the Follies of Vladimir Lenin. Whose ideology has failed everywhere it's been attempted.

And the biggest hardest thing of them all. We need to be able to reach out to many of the disaffected people brainwashed by wealthy right Wingers. They would be recruits to turn against the people who currently own them. But that's the hardest thing. Reaching so many of these people seems impossible.

[–] ChokingHazard@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She raised a Billion dollars faster than any candidate in history. Do an audit and you will see the funds were squandered. She had the money.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nowhere did I deny that she did. I simply stated that amount of money is a drop in the bucket when it comes to politics. Especially gathered once every 4 years. $1 billion every 4 years even if it's spent perfectly would still be ineffective compared to the multiple billions of dollars spent per year collectively pushing conservative propaganda.

And yes I know but but but Obama. Things have changed drastically since 2008. The propaganda has concealed and consolidated throughout our entire mass media to an extent unimaginable to someone in 2008.

And while it is bad for Democrats to mismanage funds. Bad democrat. Bad democrat. It's kind of missing the forest for the trees in this instance. And helping the opposition more. Keeping ourselves divided. But there are a lot of people on money more focused on destroying things than building things so that's not unusual.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This seems like a good place to link Robert Evans BTB episode: "How Conservatism Won" in which "Robert sits down with David Bell to discuss how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all)."

Our current situation really is the culmination of almost 70 years of rightwing efforts. They've mobilized their base and that base turn outs to city councils to set up Nativity scenes and school board meetings to ban books. There are dozens of "grassroots movements" with varying interests, (some funded by shady thinktanks but some funded by low level true believers). At the end of the day they all show up to vote for their guy(s) to push their party the direction they want, it's worked and that party has mainstreamed extremism. Their judges and policy wonks are all Foundation Vetted and Approved ideologues.

The left lost, now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety.

Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

tl;dl the rich hated FDRs New Deal and immediately set to work to undo everything he did and have been pretty successful, it'll likely take decades of work to undo the damage that's been done IF "the left" can wake up.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Somehow behind the bastards is never fun but always enjoyable. Well at least if you enjoy learning. It can still be depressing but enjoyable. And Robert addresses everything with the right type of black/ sardonic humor to make it more palatable. I have not seen / watched that episode? I think they're doing full video now as well. At least I remember seeing him do some with Cody Johnston and a few others Katie too. But behind the bastards is always good.