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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's used by every group to deride anythign they disagree with, just oversimplify things until they sound stupid.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the soul exception is sovereign citizens, which gets dumber the more I learn about them.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

I used to watch them on Youtube to see the stupid shit they'd do.... Sadly they got boring quick as all they really do is whine about being required to have a license and forward their bills to the US Treasury. They simply run out of ways to be entertaining quick.

There are two camps.

  1. Those who are LARPing that they're tough and "know the real rules" and are "using them to fight in this grand rebellion!" - It boils down to them being hostile with police and then hostile with the judges, wondering why their magic words aren't working and blaming the Judge and cops for not knowing better. Weird how the movement is still alive when NONE OF THEM can find anyone in legal who will play along. Maybe it's slowly dying, like the Christian Science movement (which has nothing to do with Christians who are Scientists, Science told through a biblical lens, Science in general, or even Christianity....)

  2. Those who fall on hard times and are desperate for some "life hack" that makes it all easier, even though if there actually was one we'd all be doing it.

The former is funny for a bit, but they run out of material fast, the latter is just sad.

I will say that early on Soverign Citizens arguments actually worked, though mostly because part of the scam is bringing a shit ton of paperwork with you, giving it to the prosecutor when you're arrested, and hoping they'll give up because it's "Too much to go through and we have other cases."

It worked in the begining, but as the SC Movement became more wildly known and more people went through the paperwork, these "papers" are usually just rejected out of hand as they're basically just the written word version of filibuster and filibuster doesn't really work in court. (Objection: Relevance)