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We need the FDA, department of education, disaster response and infrastructure. Sorry.
If I understand anarcho-syndicalism correctly, anarcho-syndicalism involves federalism.
We can have regulatory institutions while still democratizing the economy. We don't need capitalist-neo-feudalism to work together to protect public health, improve our educational and build infrastructure.
I'm arguing against anarchy, and I think you know that.
No, you're arguing against what you think anarchy is
And your preconception is false.
What's my preconception? If you're saying it's false, you need to be able to say what it is. Otherwise your response is without value.
You did imply nonexistence of regulatory institutions - and, to dig a bit deeper into that, anything that would sufficiently fulfill their role - in your first comment and contextualized that to anarcho syndicalism in your second, which reveals that your intent was to argue against anarcho syndicalism on the basis of it necessarily being devoid of some sort regulatory body or it's equivalent. Even without being an anarcho syndicalist I know that to be a bogus argument, and so should you, unless you don't know or understand it's propositions.
I'd compare that to a medieval farmhand claiming that the country can not survive without a king, while surviving (barely, sure, but that's not the point) without any of the institutions you've mentioned and disproving your claim completely.
Just a jab at the argument, not at you, please don't take it too seriously. Radical changes are scary and because of that they seem impossible to attempt and absurd to discuss, but you need to remember we only have that democracy thing for a few hundred years now, and the shift to it was very radical. Sometimes it's good to consider alternatives to systems that yeld subpar results with very weak promises of stability that are betrayed every 7 years, because you just might find the new neat thing like democracy, or at very least broaden your perspective.
I'm free to take this seriously because it's a serious topic. Don't try to cover your butt by saying, "I was just kidding," or "don't take this seriously." If you mean what you say, be accountable and stand up for it.
You're jabbing me, you say so yourself. I'm not interested in trading more barbs so I'm disengaging. Good luck with effecting change.
What's anarchy? If you're saying you're against it, you need to be able to say what it is. Otherwise your response is without value.
You, and, and anyone can freely discuss the definition of anarchy because it's publicly available.
My preconception is not. That's why you're wrong.
Have the day you deserve.
im not sure you know what you're arguing against based on this response tbh
Very good clarifying follow up! The information you provided is really useful, especially considering a discussion is about a lack of information. Thanks for your input! Twice, by the way.
ahhh one of those "why did you invest low effort in responding to my low effort trolling" folks. It's not my job to educate everyone arguing in bad faith (or in blatantly incoherent ways if not in bad faith) about the thing they claim to know about. if you want that i recommend putting in the effort to be less entirely hostile to someone who gave you a pretty matter of fact rebuttal to your very low effort concern trolling. Otherwise, ask some questions. actually engage. eduction is a two way street but your side of it appears to be blockaded and actively hostile.
also like, at least skim a wikipedia page or something?
I'm not trolling and I won't allow you to suggest that I am. Your failure to understand what I meant doesn't mean my efforts were deliberately obtuse; it means you failed to find understanding.
And I didn't say you're required to educate anyone. I said that if you want valuable discussion, changed opinions, or growth of any kind, you need to do the work to get there. You haven't done anything but make noise.
im not sure you know what you're arguing against based on this response tbh
Very good clarifying follow up! The information you provided is really useful, especially considering a discussion is about a lack of information. Thanks for your input! Twice, by the way.